I feel like anti encryption bills do nothing but allow the mainstream public go get their DMS used for ads, and punish people who don’t give all their data to cops upon arrest. I feel like people like me would just use foreign matrix instances where encryption is legal

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    I’ve been wondering if one of their ulterior motives is to kill work from home situations. Commercial real estate landlords are losing $850 billion a year because of remote work prevalence, and we know how much the government bends the knee for wealthy business owners. Without encrypted VPNs, no company is going to allow remote work.

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      But it also prevents encrypted emails, making confidential communication between companies impossible. I do not think that companies would be able to operate with their trade secrets just out in the open.

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        The recent EU law drafts I’ve seen so far have exceptions for businesses, government employees and basically everyone except the normal private person.

        I guess in many countries founding something like an LLC is pretty damn cheap so I guess we’ll all be businesses soon.

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      I wonder, part of doesn’t think they can kill https , TLS stuff which is important. They are likely gonna target E2EE, rather than client to server.

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      That would be incredibly stupid to do that for the commerical real estate industry alone. The online retail industry alone is equal in size, and that doesn’t even take into the dozens of other similarly large industries that would become too risky to exist without TLS and other encryption schemes.

      I think it’s significantly more likely that the effort is actually genuinely about muh terrorism/muh pedos than I about protecting landlords that are dwarfed by the industries this kinds crap would undermine.

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        Yeah really it would undermine the very foundation of the modern world. e-commerce, online banking, retail and commercial money transfers, online payment providers, account security, business communication, and a million other things rely on encryption. That’s why it is so baffling to me that they’re trying to kill it. Unless the plan is something like “let us read your Facebook and WhatsApp messages”, in which case it’s just creepy and unconstitutional.

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    Something I’ve wondered about too is the scope of the laws. For example, are they supposed to apply only to messaging tools, or are they supposed to stop the use of encryption by private citizens under all circumstances? If the latter, then how would people be able to do any business (especially legitimate, legal business) on the internet at all? ACAB.

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    I’m fairly confident that the encryption bans are only on those encryptions for which the government does not have the keys.

    In that scenario, companies can continue working. The idea is flawed, of course.

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    The solution is that companies, groups, and individuals simply run their own instances, just like Lemmy. These bills will actually do us good and get us to drop these massive, centralized, communication companies that have all our data and spy on us anyway. We spend all our time asking if this or that company spies on its users or not. Run your own server, there are plenty of high quality open source projects out there to choose from and it’s really not that hard. Run a server for friends and family. People wanna b lazy and then whine…