Hey everyone,
I would like to share with you some thoughts that came to me the other day. I was basically wondering what is really meant by the maximisation of freedom and where does this limit actually lie. At what point can we say that freedom is maximised? Is it only a matter of individual freedom or the maximisation of freedom for society as a whole?
I believe that this maximum is somewhere on the spectrum between absolute individual freedom and absolute community coordination. Salop said somewhere between anarchism and communism or a dictatorship.
In the one extreme, each individual has maximum freedom to do what he or she wants, there are no common tasks or competences, because for that you would have to give up some of your own competences. At the other end, however, there is a totalitarian state in which the individual no longer has any power but is defined solely by the collective or the ruler to whom he surrenders all his powers.
Most political theories are somewhere in between and approach each other from the left or the right. Libertarianism clearly does this from the liberal left side. In contrast to anarchism, there are public institutions, facilities and places to which one surrenders a minimal part of one’s authority. In my opinion, this is formed spontaneously because we humans naturally organise ourselves into groups and the resulting specialisation helps us to perform more complex tasks more quickly.
But where is this minimum level of competence at which society can develop optimally and the individual still has the maximum possible freedom? What do you think?
Don’t give a fuck about the balance between individual rights and positive rights. I’m not entitled to any determination of your options, values, or ideals, and I’m against anything or anyone that does.
I can piss on the bathroom door… I don’t need the bathroom, it’s a courtesy that we use the bathroom (ask San Fran…), and I have the right to wait a little while out of courtesy.
What you’re missing here is the responsibility that an individual has in a completely free environment to not break the unwritten rules of not being that one fucking asshole that’s always gotta fuck it up for everyone else…
Fuck positive rights. That’s what I think :)
Haha you got me wrong. I reject the notion of positive rights too. I want to approach this topic based on the natural law and the NAP (from left). But I’m no anarchist. I think that a minimal “state” (whatever this may be is up to the people) can be beneficial in contrast to a completely privatized society without any public spaces or inatitutions. I do say that these should have minimal competences and should only be there to transparently control that these minimal rights should stay in place. In an anarchist state you don’t have any courts that may protect you and anything has to be managed/protected by yourself. In any other case, you automatically hand over your own competencies to someone else.
An anarchist society likely would have courts. Read Bruce L. Benson’s The Enterprise of Law. There are plenty of ways to have a privately-operated system of justice.
But then you effectively give the courts some kind of competence over you. Even if it is absolutely minimal. And thats what I’m talking about: How much is justifiable?
What is this notion of “competence?” If you mean authority, it is an inaccurate description. All participation in the justice system in an anarchist society would obviously be voluntary because there would be no state to coerce people to participate. Nevertheless, there are numerous incentives that would entice people to peaceably cooperate with one another, including on matters of respecting life and liberty that would be handled via a justice system.
But why should I abide to the decisions of said justice system if it is voluntary? What if I build up my own totalitarian state and start forcing people to obey me? Of course the others can organize themselves to a militia and start building their communities to better defend themselves and cooperate with each other. But who will be leading this militia? And isn’t that already the beginning of a state?
