I can’t help but feel overwhelmed by the sheer complexity of self-hosting modern web applications (if you look under the surface!)
Most modern web applications are designed to basically run standalone on a server. Integration into an existing environment a real challenge if not impossible. They often come with their own set of requirements and dependencies that don’t easily align with an established infrastructure.
“So you have an already running and fully configured web server? Too bad for you, bind me to port 443 or GTFO. Reverse-proxying by subdomain? Never heard of that. I won’t work. Deal with it. Oh, and your TLS certificates? Screw them, I ship my own!”
Attempting to merge everything together requires meticulous planning, extensive configuration, and often annoying development work and finding workarounds.
Modern web applications, with their elusive promises of flexibility and power, have instead become a source of maddening frustration when not being the only application that is served.
My frustration about this is real. Self-hosting modern web applications is an uphill battle, not only in terms of technology but also when it comes to setting up the hosting environment.
I just want to drop some PHP files into a directory and call it a day. A PHP interpreter and a simple HTTP server – that’s all I want to need for hosting my applications.
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Yes, containers could be the way – if every applications would come in a container or it were super easy to containerize them without the applications knowing it.
Can I run half a dozen of applications in containers that all need port 443 and how annoying is it to set it up?
Yes, you can just map the internal 443 port to another port outside of the container and then reverse-proxy them all.
With docker compose you can usually bind any exposed ports to a port of your choice on localhost. Port statements like 127.0.0.1:8888:80 will bind port 80 within the container to port 8888 on 127.0.0.1, for example.
If you need separate addresses, I mean you can, assuming you have access to a modern network. IPv6 gives you billions of IP addresses per network. Generate a random one, or a funny hex vanity address, and bind to that.
For IPv4 you can use tricks like an SNI proxy to sniff the SNI header and transparently redirect applications to the right IPv6 host. HTTP requests can just be proxied with any reverse proxy. For non-HTTP, non-TLS traffic, you’ll need more complicated solutions, though.
I’d again go with reverse proxies (wildcard cert on the proxy, let the applications figure stuff out themselves if they decide to do it themselves) but that’ll get you double certificates that you don’t really need.
I haven’t run into issues just proxying everything through nginx but there are possibilities if something decides to absolutely need to bind to a publicly reachable port.
This is what I mean. I don’t think it is easy. I also don’t like it. I find that utterly annoying. And yes, I need all of my services to listen on port 443 or other publicly reachable ports. Right now my router just forwards the poets to the machine the applications run on.
My dynamic DNS Provider does not offer wildcards or unlimited subdomains. This was never an issue during the last 10+ years.
But it seems to be impossible to selfhost anything nowadays without reimplementing the whole tech stack for each individual application - ending up with half a dozen of operating systems and different configurations I need to maintain.
In my opinion, it seems like it’s actually becoming increasingly easier to self-host in recent times, no more dependency hell to deal with.
Most of the apps are offering docker support making it easier to deploy, you don’t waste time setting up the perfect environment for that new app you want to deploy and sometimes mess up your current setup in the process.
Which apps are you using that make it seem so bad for you, would you like to share? I think you should try it once at least managing ports it’s really easy in containerized apps and offer the same solution you need, like to port 443 of all your favourite apps to different ports and set up reverse proxy and access them.
I’d recommend you to try pi-hole with docker compose, you’ll be surprised.