Not that I use it or am fond of it, but wouldn’t Telegram be more of a middle ground in this context?
It’s not big corporate (Meta), nor smaller nonprofit or decentralized/self-hosted (Signal/Matrix~Element), and is a business offering a messaging app with encryption options one may enable as desired.
How is it not better? Are you actually arguing that plaintext and e2e encrypted messages are somewhat equivalent? It IS better, period. Not ideal because it’s still owned by Meta, but definitely better
It’s just another meta owned messenger. It’s no better than FB or instagram.
Definitely not as good as signal but at least Whatsapp is e2e encrypted unlike Instagram
And it’s the middle ground. Doesn’t make sense to die on the privacy hill in every group situation.
Not that I use it or am fond of it, but wouldn’t Telegram be more of a middle ground in this context?
It’s not big corporate (Meta), nor smaller nonprofit or decentralized/self-hosted (Signal/Matrix~Element), and is a business offering a messaging app with encryption options one may enable as desired.
Whatever works ;) problem with telegram is that group chats are not E2E encrypted
That doesn’t make it any better. Still owned and controlled by meta.
How is it not better? Are you actually arguing that plaintext and e2e encrypted messages are somewhat equivalent? It IS better, period. Not ideal because it’s still owned by Meta, but definitely better
Already answered, and no I did not say they are equivalent.
It’s not better, it’s a meta product.
That’s just plain false. WhatsApp is at least e2e encrypted and its UX is great, compared to the other apps