• GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com
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    Prayer is already permitted in US schools under 1A what is not permitted is mandatory prayer or vocalized prayers while class is in session. I can’t recite the Nicene Creed during Algebra as that’s distracting the class.

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      I remember saying the pledge of allegiance every morning in the first grade.

      “One nation, under god…”

      It may have been simply what my teacher told us to do, but what an adult says to do is pretty mandatory at that age.

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        That’s not a prayer though as you aren’t asking that God for anything which is literally what prayer is.

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          that’s splitting hairs, it’s still a creepy mandatory indoctrination speech. Fun fact, the “under god” part was added in 1954 because of pressure from the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic organization. The idea was to distinguish Americans from the scary evil godless commies. The initial Francis Bellamy version didn’t have a mention of god, even though the guy was a Baptist minister.

          shouldn’t be in schools, get it out.

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          No it isn’t a payer.

          But the larger context is that the 1st amendment doesn’t specifically call out prayer but instead prohibits establishment of a national religion.

          As such, the government isn’t permitted to endorse religious belief. “One nation, under god” isn’t specific I guess, but it is tied to the belief in a god, as opposed to no belief or belief in multiple gods. It sure seems like endorsing some religions over others or none.

          I fail to see how this is still allowed in school except that nobody is required to say the pledge. (As far as I know).

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      For me, a teacher or staff member in a group assembly saying “lets pray” is mandatory prayer due to pier pressure and authority figures in the room.