On the Food network they boil potatoes, but they poach carrots. They poach turkey, but they boil eggs. They sauté’ onions, but they fry eggs in the same pan. Likewise, they fry hash browns, but they sauté’ onions in the same pan before adding the potatoes.

I can go on for days.

  • Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml
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    Yeh a broiler here (Australia) is just as you describe and while I hadn’t given it much thought is too used in the mode you describe as well, it’s just that it’s called a “grill” and the act of using it is to “grill” which is an amusing point of confusion since it seems to have very different connotations in the states. I was aware that “Grilling” over there also connotated using the outdoor grated cooking surface that I’d call a “barbecue” but I guess where I was confused is that I thought the term also covered those otherwise flat surfaces that have the ridges like those George Foreman “grill” things but apparently that’s actually what a “griddle” is so that clears things up a bit. In either case I still can’t understand why a toasted cheese sandwich cooked in a frying pan gets called “grilled” and funnily enough it’s common to make a variation of that here that’s not quite as good but much easier and lazier to make where you put a single slice of bread covered with cheese (though not the American kind as that probably wouldn’t work very well with this method) under what I believe you’d call the “broiler”. This local method of melting cheese on bread really added to the confusion before I became aware that “Grilling” meant something different over there because I figured this must have been what was meant by “grilled cheese” before I figured that out lol.

    I think this system of classifying sauteing vs frying, is quite useful, a bit more precise than what I’m used to, just doesn’t seem to get much use amongst my circles here. Still the lack of distinction necessarily made between degrees of “fried” is interesting since “fried” chicken seems to quite specifically mean deep fried even if for many dishes a person might well intend to use a lot of oil to cook some chicken but not necessarily plan to deep fry it.

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      I have noticed many people from outside the US get hung up on grilled cheese. We just call it that for some reason and no one really thinks about it. If we stop to think, we know it is not grilled, and as far as I’m aware, it’s the only thing we call “grilled” that is not grilled. I think the reason we do not call it a toasted cheese sandwich, or cheese toastie, as I think I’ve heard in the UK, is that would imply the use of a toaster (a standalone appliance with electric heating elements inside slots just big enough for a single slice of bread). I suppose griddled cheese might be a more accurate name, but we are too far gone to make that change.

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        Grilled cheese is cooked on a flat top grill/griddle, most people use a pan in home cooking because they don’t have a flat top or it’s just easier for a single grilled cheese to use a pan. Reubens and paninnis are other sandwiches that are grilled. You could probably argue that grilled generally means cooked at high heat. Then there’s pancakes which are more commonly cooked on a griddle than a pan…

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        There’s a few different things here that make clarity difficult. One is the precise definition of various techniques, for example:poaching water is not bubbling, simmering water is gentle bubbles, boiling water is bubbling heavily(some say “full rolling boil”, which is what boiling always is. Second is simply the name of the cooking vessel/equipment, griddle vs grill vs broiler, which is sometimes the same term used to describe the technique applied. You can grill a steak, but you wouldn’t say you ovened a roast. Last is that many terms are misused so much that it’s just become common parlance. Technically a grill is a device with grates and a radiant device that cooks food through a combination of conduction and radiation, usually powered by propane or natural gas. A BBQ is a similar object powered by wood, but it’s common for an outdoor grill to be referred to as a BBQ, though when used with the lid down is a little different than an open restaurant style grill since it acts a bit like an oven too.