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Key thing is that the shortages in Gaza are a direct result of Hamas deciding to stockpile food, water, and fuel, and munitions in order to kill, rather than making sure everybody has enough.

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    You are searching morality in something, where there is none. This is urban warfare - WAR - and quite frankly - not letting Resources through Israeli border crossings - is nothing compared to things done in other wars. Especially as Egypt could deliver aid into Gaza from their border - But they chose not to.

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      @dumdum666 that’s a hard disagree from me. I think you fundamentally misunderstand what ethics and morals are. Either you believe something or you don’t.

      If you come upon some people raping some kid in an alley that doesn’t mean it’s somehow okay for you stand there and just watch because “this is rape and quite frankly worse things were done in other rapes”.

      The argument “other people could have chosen to help and didn’t, therefore it’s fine for me to not help either” doesn’t cut it.

      If you, personally, think it’s morally fine to starve civilians and children that’s one thing - luckily many disagree which is why it’s deemed a war crime.

      But you should own your views on that. Don’t try to argue that there’s some special ☆magical place☆ where there’s no such thing as right or wrong and ethics suddenly don’t exist.

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        If you come upon some people raping some kid in an alley that doesn’t mean it’s somehow okay for you stand there and just watch because “this is rape and quite frankly worse things were done in other rapes”.

        The argument “other people could have chosen to help and didn’t, therefore it’s fine for me to not help either” doesn’t cut it.

        All right, then take a plane to Egypt and start to personally deliver that aid, if you just can’t stand by as the moral and ethical pure person you are. No? Took your mouth too full? Maybe you are a Keyboard Warrior after all?

        If you, personally, think it’s morally fine to starve civilians and children that’s one thing - luckily many disagree which is why it’s deemed a war crime.

        It is a war crime if it is actually done to starve the civilians, yes. And you love to throw around accusations, don’t you?

        Why aren’t you fighting that the women and young children can flee - to Egypt or maybe even into Israel? That would actually be useful, don’t you think?

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          @dumdum666

          All right, then take a plane to Egypt

          If you think physically being in a situation is a prerequisite for caring about it, I don’t know where this conversation can go. You seem to be veering into personal attacks.

          None of this is a valid criticism of my point. I think it might be time for us to stop, since we are clearly talking past one another.

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      Everything you said is wrong. Egypt is trying to let aid through, Israel has repeatedly bombed the roads in each time they’re fixed; preventing aid. Also, as you so aptly pointed out, it’s war. The first thing a functioning country does in war is ration food so the soldiers can stay fed; even if it costs civilian lives. This has happened many times. That Israel is purposely starving civilians knowing full well it won’t affect the soldiers, just for propaganda, is frankly evil.