I just got up and took about 7 big huffs on a vape while making a coffee. 2% strength and my vision went, everything went black I started blacking out against the kitchen counter. Had to kneel down and wait for it to pass before standing up to finish my coffee. Fucked it up in a cloud of confusion and drank a warm milk.
How the fuck is nicotine legal?
Why should it be illegal?
No one is forcing you to huff it.
That’s a really bad argument. People smoking in public do force me to huff the second hand smoke.
That’s not an argument for banning nicotine in general. That’s an argument for banning smoking in public indoor places, which I think is already the case in most countries.
This and the fact that we’re talking about nicotine here, not cigarettes directly.
Inhaling vapor is much less unhealthy (still unhealthy) than inhaling cigarette smoke.
And what about nicotine patches? Should we can those because people don’t like inhaling smoke? Doesn’t make sense.
What? In what way does that have anything to do with banning nicotine?
I should have been clearer - why is weed illegal while other less-harmful drugs like weed (UK) are illegal? Makes no sense. If I can black out from weed while making coffee surely to fuck weed which has never made me black out should be legal? All weed ever did was make me fucking laugh or get paranoid.
Most of the drug laws are due to back door racism, at least here in the US. They couldn’t make laws that directly targeted minorities and so they made laws that targeted things that were part of the targeted minorities culture. Opium and heroin laws seemed to target Asians and the weed laws seemed more to target “beatniks” and Native Americans. It’s an interesting (if depressing) research topic of you’ve a mind.
Chasing the Scream by Johann Hari gives a good run down of the history of the drug war and how/why it came to be. Shocking and depressing.
Also the Behind the Bastards podcast episode on the US Crack Cocaine Epidemic is a good look at that end of things.
I cant find it now, but there’s a great quote from someone in Nixon’s FDA that basically amounts to “We were lying about the drugs to target the minorities. We knew we were lying.”, some real Legion of Doom shit.
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Lol I know you meant nicotine and not weed, I think the nicotine is still affecting you
I think you’re right! 😂
Now that’s a good question, very odd indeed. But I don’t know the answer.
If I remember correctly, the laws that make drugs illegal or not are based on the risk of harm they pose. And by the word of the law, nicotine / tobacco technically should be illegal. When this was raised with a judge, nicotine/tobacco was excluded from being illegal due to “historical precedence”.
Basically, it’s been legal for so long, and the industry built up around it was so large, they didn’t want to touch it and annoy the public (smoking was a hugely common habit at the time).
Funnily enough, weed is legal for medical use in the UK and has been since 2018. Theory goes, as soon as there’s enough political capital to be made from legalising it for recreational use, it’ll happen in the UK. The UK is already one of the largest producers of medical cannabis in the world so government so the money aspect is already being made.
It needs the public calling for it to be made legal and the rest not bothered if it is made legal before Commons would touch it.
I’ve emailed my mayor and local MP about legalisation to no avail. Not even replied to as a courtesy. I watched the committee debate on legalisation that I think happened in 2016. It’s as if MPs KNOW legalising it makes sense but they don’t want to risk outright legalisation because the media will eviscerate them. Peter fucking Hitchens especially who led the charge to re-classify weed from class C to B because weed is “stronger than it was 50yrs ago”.
Fucking brain rot in this country will mean legalisation will come in about 50yrs at the earliest.
You passing out from huffing on a vape is your own, wierd, unique reaction to nicotine due to your own misuse. I can pass out if I huff a glass of water and that would likely kill me. You can slam 20 energy drinks and make your heart explode, you can eat too much food and die, you can drink too much alcohol and get alcohol poisoning. That is all equivalent to someone who apparently has zero nicotine tolerance taking rips on a vape and being mad they got light headed. That is your own fault. That being said, I am totally down with legal weed and illegal nicotine, however, weed impairs your judgment for hours, nicotine only makes you a bit light headed for a minute, and only if you don’t have a tolerance. I say this as I rip my 12% vape with zero effect.
I’m not mad…
Oh maybe there’s some confusion. A 2% nicotine salt vape is equivalent to a 20% nicotine vape. So imagine doing a vape twice as strong in the morning and you get a good idea of why it caused me to be light-headed.
You’re also slightly confused over my seriousness. I’m not seriously suggesting we make nicotine illegal. I just wondered why it’s legal and weed isn’t but at the same time I don’t really care.
I guess my real reason for posting is I’m bored and lonely.
Second hand smokers: