The accuracy of the votes (lack or vote fuzzing) and the ability to view the split of upvotes and downvotes individually, as well as who voted for what
The latter point can be seen as a kind of disadvantage though. I don’t like the fact that anyone who is an admin on any instance can go to another instance and see the identity of every voter on any post.
While you can vet and audit votes, it’s trivial to set up a voting ring on Lemmy. There’s no CAPTCHAs and shadow banning like Reddit does for suspicious behaviour, defederating is the only solution.
There was one server that had a couple thousand “accounts” for a voting ring, got a post warning about voting rings up top, and then got defederated. Someone who’s less obvious about it could easily use a hundred votes to get any post they agree with to the top of most ranking algorithms, or get them to the bottom if they disagree, because Lemmy just isn’t as big as Reddit.
The accuracy of the votes (lack or vote fuzzing) and the ability to view the split of upvotes and downvotes individually, as well as who voted for what
The latter point can be seen as a kind of disadvantage though. I don’t like the fact that anyone who is an admin on any instance can go to another instance and see the identity of every voter on any post.
You can view who votes for things? I think that’s a kbin thing, isn’t it?
No, it’s on Lemmy too
As part of the mod log? Or somewhere else
It’s just an option on every post
https://i.imgur.com/j5ZB8vi.png
On the regular Lemmy UI you can see the option if you’re an admin (on any instance, not just the one the comment was made on)
I’ve never seen that before. I wonder if it’s an instance dependent setting?
It is limited to admins
And anyone can be an admin. You can just make an instance and appoint yourself an admin. So in practice it’s not limited to anybody.
Having a look at your screenshot again, upvotes are indeed visible (they are using Kbin too for every user).
Example for this thread: https://fedia.io/m/[email protected]/t/583932/What-does-Lemmy-do-better-than-Reddit/favourites
Is it the same for downvotes?
That’s interesting, I thought you could only see votes for communities from instances where you are an admin.
While you can vet and audit votes, it’s trivial to set up a voting ring on Lemmy. There’s no CAPTCHAs and shadow banning like Reddit does for suspicious behaviour, defederating is the only solution.
There was one server that had a couple thousand “accounts” for a voting ring, got a post warning about voting rings up top, and then got defederated. Someone who’s less obvious about it could easily use a hundred votes to get any post they agree with to the top of most ranking algorithms, or get them to the bottom if they disagree, because Lemmy just isn’t as big as Reddit.