I’m still so lost on what the use case for chatGPT is unless its like, learning a language (considering it’s a language model as i understand it).
It does not reliably source accurate information.
It does not create nuanced artistic writing.
It does not produce reliable code.
I’m certain 90% of its value is in everyone wanting very badly for it to be something that its not, but it just isn’t.
It’s like if someone invented a claw hammer and people bought into it because “Oh wow, this could be used as a door stop! This could be used to cook my stir fry! This could be used to play a piano!” and yes, you could use it for those things, but really the thing was built for hammering nails and thats about all its actually good at.
This is why I think there is hype, but little usage, because no one wants to use it for what it might actually be good at, and they don’t even market it as such because its more profitable to pretend its an “everything” tool.
It’s like going to a coffee shop, but for some reason there’s pizza on the menu, and of course when you order it, the pizza is dog shit.
It does produce good code. It does not reliably produce good code. I am a programmer, it makes my job 10x faster and I just have to fix a few bugs in the code it usually generates. Over time, I learned what it is good at (UI code, converting things, boilerplate) and what it struggles with (anything involving newer tech, algorithmic understanding, etc.)
I often refer to it as my intern: It acts like an academically trained, not particularly competent, but very motivated, fast typing intern.
But then I am also working on the field. Prompting it correctly is too often dismissed as a skill (I used to dismiss it too). It needs more understanding than people give it credit for.
I think that like many IT tech it will go from being a dev tool to everyday tool gradually.
All the pieces of the puzzle to be able to control a computer by voice using only natural language are there. You don’t realize how big it is. Companies haven’t assembled it yet because it is actually harder to monetize on it than code it. I think probably Apple is in the best position for it. Microsoft is going to attempt and will fail like usual and Google will probably put a half-assed attempt at it. I’ll personally go for the open source version of it.
Hey I heard that intern metaphor before somewhere… No Boilerplate?
EDIT: Dumb me, I replied before reading the enitre message. What you say is exactly how I feel, there are some real big possibilities here. Currently the closest thing to that using a computer with only your voice would be something like ollama combined with open web ui and their calling feature and some tool functions.
Install text-generation-webui, check their “whisper stt” option, and you can talk with a computer. As a non native I prefer to read the english output than listen to it but they do provide TTS as well.
All the criticism for artificial intelligence and deployments of it like ChatGPT right now I see as people not being able to hold something in their hand. This is far more of an abstraction than a new phone and when people can’t grock that immediately or they play with it for 5 minutes and dismiss it because it gave them a form-fill looking answer when they gave it some para-literate 5 word question, then they’re obviously going to be unimpressed and walk away.
If you spend any amount of time actually trying to figure out what to say to it in order to get it to produce actual information it’s one of the most compelling new ways to interface with a computer since the MOAD and I would imagine ultimately will be the most compelling in the end.
Like put it this way, I don’t know if this will actually end up producing AGI but, like… This thing is a 3 year old.
And it’s a 3 year old that can write basic coding implementations and give you at least, maybe in some cases much better than, high school level comprehension s of most of the English (and quickly building to other languages) written world.
Now you made me interested in learning how to prompt these things. From what I have tried, I saw that appending some more descriptional sentences after the actual prompt usually makes loads of sense. But once you add too many sentences, the model tends to write way longer replies too. This is obviously something which happens in real life too, so maybe that is just the natural way…
I’m still so lost on what the use case for chatGPT is unless its like, learning a language (considering it’s a language model as i understand it).
It does not reliably source accurate information.
It does not create nuanced artistic writing.
It does not produce reliable code.
I’m certain 90% of its value is in everyone wanting very badly for it to be something that its not, but it just isn’t.
It’s like if someone invented a claw hammer and people bought into it because “Oh wow, this could be used as a door stop! This could be used to cook my stir fry! This could be used to play a piano!” and yes, you could use it for those things, but really the thing was built for hammering nails and thats about all its actually good at.
This is why I think there is hype, but little usage, because no one wants to use it for what it might actually be good at, and they don’t even market it as such because its more profitable to pretend its an “everything” tool.
It’s like going to a coffee shop, but for some reason there’s pizza on the menu, and of course when you order it, the pizza is dog shit.
I use it almost daily.
It does produce good code. It does not reliably produce good code. I am a programmer, it makes my job 10x faster and I just have to fix a few bugs in the code it usually generates. Over time, I learned what it is good at (UI code, converting things, boilerplate) and what it struggles with (anything involving newer tech, algorithmic understanding, etc.)
I often refer to it as my intern: It acts like an academically trained, not particularly competent, but very motivated, fast typing intern.
But then I am also working on the field. Prompting it correctly is too often dismissed as a skill (I used to dismiss it too). It needs more understanding than people give it credit for.
I think that like many IT tech it will go from being a dev tool to everyday tool gradually.
All the pieces of the puzzle to be able to control a computer by voice using only natural language are there. You don’t realize how big it is. Companies haven’t assembled it yet because it is actually harder to monetize on it than code it. I think probably Apple is in the best position for it. Microsoft is going to attempt and will fail like usual and Google will probably put a half-assed attempt at it. I’ll personally go for the open source version of it.
Hey I heard that intern metaphor before somewhere… No Boilerplate?
EDIT: Dumb me, I replied before reading the enitre message. What you say is exactly how I feel, there are some real big possibilities here. Currently the closest thing to that using a computer with only your voice would be something like ollama combined with open web ui and their calling feature and some tool functions.
Install text-generation-webui, check their “whisper stt” option, and you can talk with a computer. As a non native I prefer to read the english output than listen to it but they do provide TTS as well.
Yes, thank you, this.
All the criticism for artificial intelligence and deployments of it like ChatGPT right now I see as people not being able to hold something in their hand. This is far more of an abstraction than a new phone and when people can’t grock that immediately or they play with it for 5 minutes and dismiss it because it gave them a form-fill looking answer when they gave it some para-literate 5 word question, then they’re obviously going to be unimpressed and walk away.
If you spend any amount of time actually trying to figure out what to say to it in order to get it to produce actual information it’s one of the most compelling new ways to interface with a computer since the MOAD and I would imagine ultimately will be the most compelling in the end.
Like put it this way, I don’t know if this will actually end up producing AGI but, like… This thing is a 3 year old.
And it’s a 3 year old that can write basic coding implementations and give you at least, maybe in some cases much better than, high school level comprehension s of most of the English (and quickly building to other languages) written world.
This is the dumbest it will ever be…
Now you made me interested in learning how to prompt these things. From what I have tried, I saw that appending some more descriptional sentences after the actual prompt usually makes loads of sense. But once you add too many sentences, the model tends to write way longer replies too. This is obviously something which happens in real life too, so maybe that is just the natural way…