https://the-federation.info/platform/73 says for lemmy we have: 1,073,211 Users

It also says that: Last month users: 38897

Which is 2 orders of magnitude of a difference. If you look at the list of instances there ones like https://the-federation.info/node/details/48405 which have 50k users and 10 active last month users.

That means almost all of the 1 milion users are fake users.

I’m seeing people celebrating every 100k users every couple of hours without realizing this.

    • dystop@lemmy.world
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      Go on this page, sort by total users and compare to active users.

      Yes, I’ve been using this site for tracking too.

      lemmygrad.ml has 606 active users and 231752 comments

      I’m not sure I understand your point? If you’re saying that the active user : comment ratio for all other instances is off, then I think you got it the wrong way round. lemmygrad was one of the first instances to be developed, way before the reddit exodus, so their number of active users has dropped even as their comment count slowly grew over time.

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        600 active users a month making 230000 comments a month? Those are pretty active indeed

        Most of instances having 40K users but less than 100 actives?

        Compare the data of Lemmy.world with others. There is a common trend of ratio between users/active/posts and comments among them, and then there are those huge instances by users but zero activity?

        I’m sorry but there’s either a huge problem in the way users numbers are aggregated, or those users are just fake.

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          Yes, lemmygrad really is that active. Try going to the instance to poke around and you’ll see. 600 active means 600 people have posted in the last month - like I said, lemmygrad has been around for much, much longer, so there are users who posted and then fell off, so their posts are part of the 230k comments but they don’t make up part of the 600 users.

          Also, I don’t think you read my comment properly. What I said was that the numbers are not made up, but there are bot attacks on unsecured instances. Read my previous post again please.

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            Also, I don’t think you read my comment properly.

            Oh yes, I did. You are just finding ways:

            How can you say, “Not bulshit -but- attack by bots” “350-400k legitimate” ???

            That sentence alone tells me exactly what I need to know about your way of thinking, because even if you were correct about real users and not overestimate the numbers, 350K legitimate when everybody cheers 1 million is definitely bulshit.

            So ok, my bad. I shouldn’t have tried to have a sensical discussion with you.

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              I interpreted OP’s post as “the number of users reported on the website is wrong”.

              My point is that the number is accurate - there are that many signups - it’s just that a large majority of it are bots. The number is accurate, but it doesn’t mean anything.

              I was in no way trying to cheer the fact that we have that many users. Like I said, we probably only have 350-400k actual users. It’s not that the reporting is wrong, it’s the bot sign-ups that are making the number meaningless.

              I was unclear in my message, I guess. And you were also very rude.

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                There was a misunderstanding which happens. Unfortunate they felt the need to start trash talking before everything was made clear. It’s nice to see people admit when they make mistakes. Doesn’t happen as much as it used to.

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        And part of what led to lemmygrad in the first place was subs like /r/Genzedong being banned. I think the kinds of people who seek a new location after their sub is banned are much more likely to be in the 10% group who comment and create content. Besides that, the political nature of lemmygrad (and the fact that all those users are likely on the same page about a lot of things) leads to a much more engaged userbase.

        In short: lemmygrad is in no way a representative example/sample