• TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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    25 days ago

    Waiting on that yes or no answer.

    Edit: and I didn’t ask a loaded question so gtfo with that excuse.

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      25 days ago

      It is a loaded question. It assumes that there is a way to vote that will actually end the genocide.

      Accept reality. Either choose your oppressor or remove them yourself.

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        25 days ago

        It assumes that there is a way to vote that will actually end the genocide.

        No it doesn’t.

        I await your yes or no answer. Please do less making things up.

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          The context very well makes it clear you’re assuming that. Of course it would be better if you could vote for a candidate that wasn’t a bloodthirsty imperialist. But that’s sadly your only realistic option in your shithole country. Voting third party will be pissing your vote into the wind.

          Like I said, either rise up or vote.

          At least you have guns over there. You don’t have our excuse.

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            I’ll let you know what I assume, thanks. It’s not a loaded question, you don’t have to agree to anything implicitly, just the actual answer.

            Anyways, I await your yes or no answer.

            PS this bad faith dithering is the aforementioned cognitive dissonance. It is not complexity, it is discomfort with being frank when challenged.

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              A question that asks me whether I agree with voting for genocide definitely assumes I am able not to. And if you acknowledge that it isn’t possible - why ask? It’s a useless question.

              Also, this isn’t “bad faith” or “dithering”. Yet another of your dishonest techniques: accusing someone of being a troll just for challenging your assumptions.

              Bad faith is asking someone a question then claiming you asked a totally different question. You’re like a child asking “why can’t I have a PS5?” over and over again, ignoring me when I say “we don’t have enough money”, as if that answer doesn’t make sense to you.

              It is a loaded question begging me to agree with you under threat of looking bad otherwise. Don’t you dare try this again.

              By the way - my answer to your question is already in the previous comment. It is “of course (if that were possible)”.

              Like - are you actually fucking stupid? Of course I would prefer not to vote for fucking genocide! Don’t be simple. Don’t be a fucking idiot. But things are not so simple. You either vote for genocide or throw away your vote. Those are your only options in this vote.

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                25 days ago

                The question was: “So then you agree that you should not support genocide nor vote for genocidal candidates?” I.e. not loaded and not containing the content you are going on and on about.

                I await your yes or no response, liberal.

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                  Asking that question implies there is actually a choice to be made. I’ve said this multiple times.

                  It also ignores that I’ve answered “no”, twice.

                  “Do you want normal coffee of decaff?” Implies there is both normal and decaff coffee to be chosen from - else, why would they mention both?

                  Also - not a liberal. Rather odd thing to call someone who suggests that the proletariat should seize the means of production.

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                    This will be the 1 (1) time I respond with much more than requesting you answer the very simple, non-loaded question.

                    Asking that question implies there is actually a choice to be made.

                    Two choices, actually. 1. To claim to be against genocide or not. 2. To claim to support voting for genocidal candidates or not. I figure these go together so I put them together as joint. Based on your complaining, I have just done you a great service is unraveling my very simple question. It was otherwise indecipherable by mere mortals!

                    I’ve said this multiple times.

                    Nope, you’ve gone off to talk about your excuses for your unstated honest answer just like other liberals, choosing to leave an implication for the answer rather than direct and honest.

                    “Do you want normal coffee of decaff?” Implies there is both normal and decaff coffee to be chosen from - else, why would they mention both?

                    Be against genocide or for it. Vote for genocidal candidates or don’t. Quite simple but you instead dwell on straw men and avoiding answering. This is a common liberal behavior on this topic. It comes from your discomfort with the honest answer that would match your dissembling.

                    Also - not a libera

                    Painfully obviously a liberal.

                    Rather odd thing to call someone who suggests that the proletariat should seize the means of production.

                    Many liberals ape the phrases but spend their time defending ruling class talking points and sheepdogging for genociders. May you someday cease being a traitor to that proletariat.

                    So, I await a yes or no answer to my simple and non-loaded question, liberal.