Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)…

What you see via the UI isn’t “all that exists”. Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see “under the hood”. Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won’t normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.

Edit: To clarify, not just YOUR instance admin gets this info. This is ANY instance admin across the Fediverse.

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    It really doesn’t matter how similar you think it is to email, the GDPR treats it differently and that’s the reality you have to accept.

    I see, just say at the start that you are not interested in any discussion because you are all-knowing, that makes things easier for everyone.

    I’ll then save my time and not even comment why you are still misunderstanding with the rest of your post.

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      I am interested in discussion but I prefer to discuss things based on facts rather than feelings.

      Email isn’t exempt from the GDPR. If an email provider is doing anything with your email except for delivering it to the intended recipient, then you have a right to know under the GDPR. Plenty of hefty fines have been handed out over failing to sufficiently inform about such things: https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ (look for e.g. art. 12 violations). Even something as simple as SMTP logs contain PII according to the GDPR and should be handled as such.

      You voluntarily sending an email, with whatever content you decide to put there, to a recipient of your choosing, is in absolutely no way the same as clicking a vote button and involuntarily having your vote and username broadcast to whoever cares to listen without your prior knowledge and consent. Yes, emails travel through a bunch of MTAs underway — that’s a prerequisite for email to work. And no, broadcasting Lemmy votes along with usernames is in no way a prerequisite for voting to work.

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        I am interested in discussion but I prefer to discuss things based on facts rather than feelings.

        No, you are not, you are insulting, condescending, and misunderstanding what I’m saying while making no effort to try and understand.

        I’ll try one final time, if you still don’t understand t what I’m saying, please, just leave me alone.

        involuntarily having your vote and username broadcast to whoever cares to listen without your prior knowledge and consent.

        It’s not involuntary. This is the purpose of Lemmy. It acts as a sender of information. It’s voluntarily broadcasting it, because YOU told it to broadcast it. The privacy policy explains this to you in my example. Just because you have a wrong image of Lemmy in your head, doesn’t turn it into a different application.

        You can disagree with that, that’s fine with me, but at least try to understand what I’m saying at all.

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          It’s voluntarily broadcasting it, because YOU told it to broadcast it.

          Yes, and that’s not the issue as I’ve been saying the entire time. The issue is that you have a right to know where it’s broadcast — both in the past and in the present. That’s what I’ve been saying the entire time. And the privacy policy needs to specify exactly what data is sent and where to. The privacy policy you cited did neither, it just stated that it was sent out.