I’d tried matix but without a high level of technical experience it was pretty difficult to setup. I got as far as docker, that needed ansible, that wouldn’t compile. I also recall there was services I could pay for, but then I’d rely on them to provide the security/servers.

Matrix doesn’t seem for the majority of people taking a first step away from big tech.

I’ll organise a time and place to meet in person via … Carrier pigeon?

We’re citizens raging against phones Lazlow.

Whats the next best alternative?

IDK man. I tried Linux a few times, and it never stuck. Things don’t work, it involves endless reading, or the latter then the prior on loop (where as windows just works).

I’m trying out endeavour ATM and hopefully it will stick. But it took me a solid few attempts, over days, to find out “where does pacman get its apps from”. I know the answer is more conplex, but eventually I foind and the arch web db…with the help of perlexoty.AI.

I didn’t realise it was different than the AUR web db look basically identical. I never noticed the URL difference. As far as Linux has come its still little frustrations that hold it back for even semi tech literste pople.

I’m trying to save from posting in forums (and have rooted a few androids with less than a handfull of posts) but I can’t even work out from the wiki how I can give pacman a list apps to install when it’s spaced out on each line, without making it a .txt file. It’s pretty impossible to “just read” and work out simple things.

Maybe it’s just like my opinion. (I am liking endevour so far).

Why are these never in the centre. Wouldn’t being on the side tow awful?

Best one I’ve seen though.

😅

“Freely” if you enable the setting as the user posted above.

with 0 auth or verification

The verification still needs one of the devices listed in my post to be active on your wifi to allow the setup and communication.

The auth is likely done by device to device handshake. Its just that there isn’t a human involved.

Don’t get me wrong I hate Amazon as much as anyone and would never have one of their devices in my home.

But most of the other posts in this thread are missing the technical aspect of the question.

From @7eter below.

“Frustration-Free Setup utilizes a network of helper devices (such as compatible Echo devices, Fire TV devices, routers, or smartphones with certain Amazon apps) that are already connected to the internet to help you set up new devices in fewer steps. When you turn on a new compatible device, helper devices in range can help it connect to your networks and/or to Alexa via wifi, Zigbee, Bluetooth, or Matter.”

Is it as easy as “create instance” or does it involve setting up a server and other cloud based software?