There is also The Onion and other satire w/ [email protected]. You could post both here and there - to link them make sure to use the repost feature, in the Lemmy web UI it looks like a double square to the right of the favorite/star icon - and thereby help grow that community on another instance.

Not only would that help the overall goal of not having all posts of one type be in a single location on the Fediverse, but I wonder if those words appearing (of “and other satire w/ layers”) may help with understanding for the post in this community as well. Probably not though, bc the only people who tend to read the sidebar are those who actually make posts, while those who comment often do not.:-)

Exactly that. Which ironically doesn’t mean that everything that they say is false… but it does mean that everything that they say is suspect.

We need a billionaire to swoop in an save us. Which won’t happen, so we need a grass roots effort from the ground up to save us. Which won’t happen so we need a spaghett monster or god to save us. Which won’t happen bc e.g. the Christian God allows free will hence consequences… so we need aliens to save us. Which won’t happen bc they do not exist - that we can demonstrate.

It is a lot easier to destroy than to create, and it will require enormous efforts to maintain constant vigilance to know things in the future, in this our mis- and worse yet dis-information era.

Rules for Rulers

The rulers change, but the rules do not.

I feel like we both mentioned facts there - hopefully we added something to the conversation, that there’s some nuance wherein it both is but also is not The Onion, depending on which “it” we’re talking about:-).

Ho ho ho, okay then! (But not me in reverse - I don’t think I want to know!?:-P)

For-profit media sells whatever makes them the highest profits. (Those who won’t, make way to those who will, or remain in obscurity e.g. how many people have even heard of Ian Danskin of Innuendo Studios.)

They will sell anything it seems, with little to no regard for facts. Then they leave it to you to determine the lies of omission, while hunting for the real truth, i.e. to do the true work of journalism. But usually unpaid, painstakingly, and again you’ll never be able to share that message by virtue of being in conflict with the for-profit sources. Or if you do, who would even understand you, especially among the sheeple who either cannot and/or also will not bother to read anything at all.

Some people like Jon Stewart have railed against this for decades… but he lost, and it’s worse than ever before. Adjust your expectations accordingly. This is the world.

https://infosec.pub/post/18142706

Tbf, this community is called “The Onion”:-P

I kinda thought so:-)

I tried that last week with a different video, where I did manage to think about that aspect, but it still was not well-received. Probably b/c “what is a bacteriophage” is too juvenile for this crowd.

The thing is, when I see such videos, I get excited - not even for myself who knows the material, but that it is now that much easier for others to follow. Like having climbed the ladder, rather than pull it up after us they are doing the hard and very necessary and quite frankly often under-appreciated effort of collating this information, packaging it in a form that is easily consumed, and delivering it to those who need it. I don’t think I learned about bacteriophages until college! And I did not know that such diverse matters as e.g. allergies and chocolate cravings could be traced back to their presence (& absence) until much later (when scientists themselves discovered that much later).

Kids who cannot afford to go to private schools, people in lower-income nations that nonetheless may have internet access, at least sporadically, women who are not allowed to learn in certain portions of the world (like almost Florida these days?), etc. - these videos are, if not quite college-level courses (such as the variety of Crash Course series), then at least preparatory material that can help! Also, someone who knows even extremely higher-level technical skills such as databases, Unix systems coding, and the likes of Rust, Go, etc., may likewise want to learn about “bacteriophages” (or “vaccines”, or “the actual, not most news-worthy, ways that most people die in the Western world”). So I am extremely happy that these videos exist (yes! I am not exaggerating there - it literally fills me with an amount of full-on joy!:-), for the sake of the love of learning and knowledge. It’s basically Wikipedia, put into video form, for the sake of the younger generations who won’t read and for whom these bright colors and neat voiceover effects will nonetheless still manage to spoon-feed them this knowledge (also, perhaps once someone knows a little bit… maybe they will read, after that?).

But perhaps most of all, the counter-culture side to me has a nice “take that!” moment when someone absolutely refuses to learn anything at all - even though there’s a brightly-colored, nicely-narrated, extremely condensed yet easy to receive video that will tell you pretty much all the basics of most subjects. Now I can look down on people who refuse to know things, b/c I know that they could know, if only they would. :-)

But I’m weird - and loving it - yet still if these videos aren’t wanted, then I should stop sharing them. Or at least find some other community that might want them more.

May I take a moment to say thank you? Many people have downvoted, leaving me wondering why tbh, so I appreciate your forthrightness here.

Also as you say, it is definitely clickbait - e.g. it might, not “will”, save someone’s life. But primarily if they were dumb enough to drink and then immediately drive while still drunk, or to go swimming in or even walking by the ocean (or other large body of water) while drunk. It also mentions cars in general being dangerous, even when you are not the one primarily at fault for an accident, though “not driving” isn’t something that most people could switch to simply “not doing” as soon as the very next week. So yes, it is hyperbolic. Beyond that, its premise is sound that we so often get deluged with the clickbait media that it warps and twists our minds as to what is actually dangerous… but yes it has resorted to using some of the same tricks done by the other side in order to get its messages out to the widest possible audiences.

Also there’s that annoying text that gets added by the Lemmy automation, below the video about going to that brilliant.org website whatever it is, I presume an ad for them.

On the other hand, Kurzgesagt is a shining beacon of hope in this world (I know, weird to say, especially about them who are so often accused of making people glum:-) where on the one hand, the President of the USA is telling people to take things like hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin, while on the other Kurzgesagt fights against disinformation and misinformation campaigns with such simple and easy-to-understand videos as this one that is only 11 minutes long and uses video game- or movie-like terminology (“nature dojo vs. vaccine dojo”) to explain to someone, both precisely and yet still simply, why the crap coming from the other side is incorrect. It may literally have saved some people’s actual, literal lives - e.g. a kid who in defiance of their parents sneaks out to receive a vaccine.

So yeah, I tend to give them a pass to say whatever they need to, if it helps reach a better audience.

But thank you for reminding me that WE are not that audience here - I probably should have edited their title to something more precisely true, except that the content would remain as it is. Which I think has a place, like perhaps being shown in a classroom even - and no, not so much to us but to friends & family members (who don’t use Arch btw:-P) who may need to be reached by such messages.

Though my thoughts & preferences do not dictate how it will be received, and again thank you for this discussion - I am glad for it.

I think Adam meant that even the likes of Fox News are starting to get really worried, b/c of Trump’s extremely poor performance at the last debate.

Trump is indeed dangerous and not entirely sane.

That’s how I got almost all of my furniture:-). Granted, I didn’t do it in a “next door neighbor” setting, but rather apartment where it’s more acceptable. Oh well now you know:-).