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  • I mean it’s ideals definetly started with people getting fed up over how money was getting aggregated, then it started getting tied to religion and the Roman empire coopted it to control any narratives, turning what was probably the first instance of eat the rich into we shall just wait to be rewarded. Like the turn the cheek phase was not meant to be submissive, it was meant to tell you how to make sure the slave owner when beeting you left a mark which was a way to earn freedom at that point in time. That got coopted into meaning to take punishment and not complain, which is fucking nuts. Guessing it’s why there are so many Jesus like story’s from that time frame about a dude born from a virgin, walking on water, etc. they tried numerous times to coopt the movement till it worked with Christianity.


  • Which is why those ideals were coopted by a religion and taken over by the Roman empire to manage and add authoritarian control by making it a God who said all this with their emperor being the only one able to appoint a pope who could clarify the messages in favor of how they wanted to rule.













  • How do you factor in the overabundance of cheap, nutritionally fucked food, and how that may affect those living paycheck to paycheck?

    I eat constantly processed shit. I hate cooking, but it’s still damn simple, don’t get the biggest meal at McDonald’s, get the low sodium/fat frozen pre cooked meals that only have a couple hundred calories per serving for under the cost of a meal from fast food. Then you just don’t over eat, wait 20mins or so after and let your body naturally tell you it’s full instead of eating until you want to puke. Bottled water is cheaper than cans or soda regardless of if you get them from a dollar store or not. It’s literally cheaper to eat less food which is the main part of weight maintenance.

    Side note, as a nurse I’ve seen patients who are obese because of circumstances and medical issues. Someone who has to work two jobs, has a kid, and newly discovered hypothyroidism is not obese because they don’t care. They have a medical issue and no extra time/resources to compensate for it with a refined diet and exercise (especially considering one of the most common symptoms of hypothyroidism is fatigue). You’re not even factoring in the undiagnosed, or those who don’t have access to sufficient healthcare.

    Hypothyroidism is like 5% of the population. Obesity is at 40%, let’s not act like our obesity epidemic is because everyone with hypothyroidism is trying to move to the USA to boost our statistics.

    My overall point is if you’re targeting obese people specifically, you’re not on the right track.

    Na there is nuance between shaming someone for decisions made well within their control and understanding some are placed there beyond their control. I’m not advocating for those with hypothyroidism to be attacked, if anything calling out obesity would help bring awareness to those fronts as it would promote discussion about the issues instead of downplaying it so those with issues cant get the help needed like you descibed earlier in your post. Like trying to pass legislation that requires employers to give reasonable medical accommodations to those individuals so they have enough time to prep meals or even have subsidies that can give them more healthy choices at reasonable prices.


  • The dairy industry is subsidized through the US government, it’s literally a goal for the fda to promote dairy, and companies that use more diary or cheese in their products get subsidies from the government (think stuffed crust pizza and extra cheese). Putting that blame on the obese is not what I was getting at, at all. More that we have industries who do not care if they create obesity, but if we apply social pressure, it may help stop some from over consumption at a young age. If that can aid in promoting healthier life styles from a young age before major life stressors make it almost impossible to get out of that seems like some form of progress as our governments seem keen to do absolutely shit for the problem at hand. Then we can try and figure out more human solutions but allowing for this level of hyper consumption unabated just doesn’t seem sustainable or progress inducing.



  • People are shamed for smoking as they should be for its health effects on them and others. Obesity should be treated no differently. You don’t get to 400lb because of a bad thyroid, you get to 400lbs because you are addicted to food and over consumption. It puts undue strain on our medical facilities, and impacts the obese indivuals ability to be a functioning member of society. There should be conversations about why it’s bad. We shouldn’t treat it like some innocent personal choice when it is not, it’s shortening lifespans, the bad diet exacerbates mental health issues, can lead to diseases like type 2 diabetes. The problem is we don’t also target the food industry as much as we should for them pushing all the sugar coated processed garbage in the first place. They should be equally as ostracized as tobacco companies are for their aid in a similar epidemic.