If its going away now, it isn’t quite long enough…

Don’t forget URSAL.

I’m originally from a colonised country. I have reasons to be skeptical of dominant western speech and historiography.

I’m not validating every action of socialists, the same way I have to suppose you don’t validate every action of the western nations. All governments are probably doing stupid shit, I support none.

I’m impressed by your statement that a governing body that had tendencies to make the right choice is/was a piece of shit, in contrast of generally defending governing bodies that apparently doesn’t have tendencies of making the right choices in the economy realm, for most people. Evident by recent banks bailouts.

Adding to my point, we only know about stuff that happens outside western countries through the lenses of western media. Which is generally alright, where there’s no state interest in the topics. And this specific topic, of socialism, alternative means of organising production and making politics is very sensitive to western countries, so they have to filter news, just like you’d expect China to do.

Also, thank you for a generally civilised conversation in a very heated sublemmit, I appreciate it. :)

My point is that, by the single metric of crushing nazis, no warring nation topped the soviets.

Can’t deny that the strongest opposition to nazis, by count of absolute death of nazis, was the socialists, not the democrats.

You agree western nations were lenient in the beginning, just like the soviets did what was diplomatically available to delay being attacked, until some industrial setup was available.

But by the end of ww2, counting the bodies, soviets get less credit than they deserve by western historiography.

Source: Wikipedia.

In which countries/campaigns most nazis died? Might shed some light over individual parties contribution to the fall of Germany in ww2.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_casualties_of_World_War_II

Reddit is the web we built. And fuck u/spez decided to give it away for money.

I miss Aaron Swartz and the open web. Let’s rebuilt it again, on better foundations!