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      More like “Germany plz stop occupying Czechoslovakia”.

      Much of Europe celebrated the Munich Agreement, as they considered it a way to prevent a major war on the continent. Adolf Hitler announced that it was his last territorial claim in Northern Europe. Today, the Munich Agreement is widely regarded as a failed act of appeasement, and the term has become “a byword for the futility of appeasing expansionist totalitarian states.”

      “Ah, darts. We didn’t appease the discourse hard enough. You can keep Czechoslovakia if you pinky-promise not to invade any more countries! If you do, we’ll be forced, to, uh, you’ll see, and you better believe we’ll do it!” (Narrator: They didn’t, in fact, do anything when Germany invaded Poland).

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        It was a whole bunch of that.

        • Remilitarization of the Rhineland.

        • Anschluß of Austria.

        • The Sudetenland.

        • The actual invasion of Czechoslovakia.

        Nazi Germany really pulled “whatcha gonna do about this, bitch?” and got away with it for a surprisingly long time.

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          Appeasement doesn’t work. It did not work out for European powers, it did not work for Stalin, and more recently it did not work with Crimea/Ukraine.

          Yet every time a portion of the population will wholeheartedly support appeasement policies out of what I can only assume to be a mix of abhorrent cowardice and a pathological compulsion to submit to authority. I can only imagine the kind of fucked-up childhood these people lived, to make them so afraid of fighting back even when they’re the ones holding the bigger stick.

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              Bad comparison. Ireland wasn’t an invading, occupying power. They were trying to reclaim their country from the British empire…and they didn’t even get all of it. I smell a troll.

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                Britain was an invading occupying power, Ireland gave up the north for peace. It made sense since there was a large British protestant population in the north that feared being integrated with the Catholic south. Very similar situation with the large Russian populations in Crimea and eastern Ukraine that fears integration with the maidan regime.

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      “If you could stop killing people by the millions in a mass cultural genocide, that would be great. Thx.”

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        Never thought I’d say this about the fucking Nazis, but to be fair, most of the world was entirely unaware of just how bad the concentration camps were until after the war, and those that were aware didn’t become aware until the war was already past it’s height and starting to wear down as Nazi Germany was slowly colapsing under its own weight.

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          Honestly, more of the world (and especially the US) was strongly opposed to the Nazis during WWII than the population now, because it’s been so long. Which makes the fact you gave even more frustrating for me honestly. Because we have the information now. We know. There’s no excuse for present day.

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            “Surely no one would ever do such things again. It’s in the barbaric past.”

            Meanwhile, Arizona fixed their gas chamber for executions recently and basically reverse-engineered Zyklon B for it. (It’s real. Look it up.)

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      Asking nicely and tolerance aren’t the only other options or even necessarily the opposite of violence. Sometimes, it’s just a necessary measure and last resort. Beating people rarely changes their mind, other methods must be used, like reasoning and education (preferably even before the person has gone fascist). Obviously, the reasoning isn’t gonna work with everybody, in which cases you do whatever must be done to ensure safety.

      Think of fascism as if it’s a zombie pandemic. Once it’s in progress, you save those that you can and liquidate those that are too far gone. But the real method against a zombie pandemic is to have preventative measures in place, like not letting Umbrella Corp. develop the virus in the first place.