• iByteABit [he/him]@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      I’m saying that Pantera is mostly successful thanks to amazing musicianship and great songs, but the political message of some of their songs is very controversial and definitely not a solution to a problem.

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        1 year ago

        What message? Revolution to give the power back to the people? Yeah that’s not great, but it has happened a few times with positive results. That’s what the history book writers tell me.

        Which songs are you talking about?

        The problematic thing with Pantera is that the lead singer said some ignorant racist shit in 2016 “Metal musicians have condemned Pantera frontman Philip Anselmo after he was filmed last week giving a Nazi salute and shouting ‘white power’.” https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/feb/01/metal-community-condemns-racism-phil-anselmo-nazi-salute-white-power

        He tried to pass it off as a stupid joke about white wine. He’s since apologized https://loudwire.com/philip-anselmo-video-apology-offensive-gesture-exclamation/. People vouched for him.

        But it’s kind of a pattern at this point https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Anselmo

        So yeah the lead singer is probably a racist. Nobody that listened to them in the 90s knew that. None of their songs are racist AFAIK.

        But yeah the lead singer is probably a shithead offstage. It’s like Rodger Waters. Pink Floyd was amazing. He’s dead wrong on a few things and a complete asshole about it. Two goundbreaking (in totally different ways) bands. Two shithead lead singers.

        I know “separate the art from the artist” is a cop out, but people change. Maybe they are worse people than the ones that made the songs you love 30-60 years ago. Maybe they were secret assholes the whole time. I like the music.