• SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    The problem isn’t with capitalism but the people that take advantage of it.

    You can take advantage of socialism too.

    tho i wouldn’t mind me some socialism

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      1 year ago

      Nope. Capitalism inherently exploits the working class. Exploitation is not inherent to socalism. Both system are corruptible, but capitalism starts out that way.

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        1 year ago

        Exploitation is inherent to any system in which there is an established hierarchy, which necessarily includes any and all systems in which there is institutionalized authority, entirely regardless of the economic system in place.

        Leaving institutionalized authority in place and merely switching from a capitalist to a socialist system only changes the specific hoops the exploiters have to jump through to gain and maintain privilege - instead of gaining wealth and using it to buy political power, they have to, and do, gain political power and use it to commandeer wealth.

        If you want to fight exploitation, you need to go all the way to the real source and fight the institutionalization of authority.

        Any time anyone has the power to rule, you axiomatically have a ruling class.

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          1 year ago

          Libertarian socalism. I 100% agree. All unjustifiable hierarchies must go. Including all that are established by violence and coercion.

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      1 year ago

      Literally this.

      In any system their will be abuse, from hacking in video games to corruption in politics.

      The thing is though I’d rather we be corrupt and feeding/housing those who need it rather than be corrupt and not doing those things

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        1 year ago

        So let’s pick a system that doesn’t incentivize corruption. If it’s going to happen, let’s not encourage it.

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          1 year ago

          But what does that look like and how do you establish it without accidentally murdering millions.

          The wheels of history are lubricant for the wheels of history, evil shit but true. Whenever we want to move history we need to always consider who is being harmed.

          Our system sucks but turning it off will inevitably cause a shock of some degree and that harms people.

          Literally a kobayashi maru

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            1 year ago

            What an idiotic argument. So what? Should we stop trying to progress at all as a society because it could hurt people? Removing this exploitive system will help more than it’ll harm. No contest.