• Skoobie@lemmy.film
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    45
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    1 year ago

    Promising a deal that includes citizenship, a house, a salary, and an administrative position to a Nazi scientist in exchange for their work and knowledge such that one’s country can gain ground in a cold war is absolutely fine. It’s absolutely totally fine.

    Following through with the deal after getting the goods from the Nazi is not. Shoot the Nazi. You always shoot the Nazi.

      • Skoobie@lemmy.film
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        25
        arrow-down
        18
        ·
        1 year ago

        I apologize if I’m misreading. Are you suggesting that it would be wrong to shoot a Nazi?

        • collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          34
          arrow-down
          9
          ·
          1 year ago

          After promising safety in exchange for cooperation, and presumably without having convicted them of anything besides their former party affiliation?

          • Skoobie@lemmy.film
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            8
            arrow-down
            10
            ·
            1 year ago

            Ah, now I will admit to there having been a potential nuance. I certainly would want a trial before an execution, for instance. But I also think it would be wrong to assume these scientists were completely morally innocent. Maybe I could be persuaded from my earlier opinion of “You always shoot a Nazi” but there needs to be something to show. A diary entry saying “I’m not sure about this Hitler fella.” Something.

            • Flumsy@feddit.de
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              14
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              Either trial him OR make a deal. You cant make a deal and after getting what you want proceed to trial him.

            • _iamnotcutoutforthis@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              13
              arrow-down
              5
              ·
              1 year ago

              What you’re suggesting is stooping to the level of the nazi cruelty by a complete breach of agreement even after the other party has fulfilled their terms. Also what was that pathetic attempt at baiting the other guy by saying: “aRe yOu SuGgEsTiNg iT iS wRoNg tO sHoOt NaZiS?!!”. Like that wasn’t even the point of the other guy.

        • DarkenLM@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          I think many of the scientists weren’t Nazis, but rather forced to work for the Nazis, fearing for their and their family’s lives. I could be wrong though, it has been a while since I’ve investigated that matter.

          • Skoobie@lemmy.film
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            7
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            To be frank, it would be hard to siphon out truth from fiction at this point from personal accounts. That said, of course I distinguish between a forced Nazi accomplice and a sympathizer. I am not suggesting that they should be treated the same. I am suggesting that the U.S. was so zealous in its efforts to defeat the Russians that it wasn’t making distinctions.

            • kameecoding@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              1 year ago

              didn’t Hitler get the idea of concentration camps from the US?

              I think you are idolizing US in this a bit too much, they weren’t exactly much better than the nazis.

              I mean I know for sure Eugenics were a popular idea in the US during that time, PoC were treated terribly etc.