• ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social
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    Those aren’t Human Rights, those are Freedoms. Freedoms are often included as part of Human Rights decrees but they are usually merely subsections of Human Rights decrees and can be restricted by governments if there is just cause, but never or rarely removed outright.

    The Universal Declaration of Human Rights identifies a few key things like the Right to Life including protections from slavery and torture. The Freedom of Movement is one that can be restricted if you prove dangerous. The big one that most people are referring to when they mention Human Rights is all of the “constitutional liberties”, here’s a quote from the article I linked about that:

    the so-called “constitutional liberties” and spiritual, public, and political freedoms, such as freedom of thought, opinion, expression, religion and conscience, word, peaceful association of the individual, and receiving and imparting information and ideas through any media.

    The above linked declaration hasn’t been ratified in every country, and it’s sort of a basic boilerplate that countries may use to form their own Human Rights decrees. But again the big one that is quite universal is the constitutional liberties which are basically the freedom from discrimination and oppression.

    My point being, restricting a person’s Freedoms isn’t necessarily the same as violating their Human Rights.

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      I mean, there is the right to bear arms, people in jail and felons don’t have that right. Felons can’t even vote.

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        Human rights are bigger than just the United States. What happens there is a pretty atrocious infringement on the rights of inmates. It’s not surprising though, considering the US prison system is essentially just modern slavery and that there are corporations who have a vested interest in dehumanizing the inmates so they can exploit them as slave labor without anyone objecting.

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          Article 20 Right of Peaceful Assembly and Association

          People in jail can’t do that.

          Article 13 Right to Free Movement in and out of the Country

          They can’t do that either.

          Article 14 Right to Asylum in other Countries from Persecution

          I mean, how do you define persecution? Because we help find people sometimes, which seems like the opposite.