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  • be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Reagan wrote the second amendment?

    On the off chance this question was asked in earnest:

    The typical deflection from the US right is that the real problem is that we need to put more effort into addressing mental health. (and IMO there is some truth to that)

    However, Reagan ® dismantled funding for our mental health infrastructure and was responsible for the closing of many mental health treatment centers, and Republicans since then have (to my knowledge) voted against every effort to resurrect it.

    They won’t support restrictions on gun ownership because they say the problem is mental health, but they won’t support spending on mental health either. (Most likely because they seem to oppose anything that would actually help people who suffer.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Health_Systems_Act_of_1980

    https://sociology.org/content/vol003.004/thomas.html

    This last one is a ddg search - you can just pick which article you want to read about Republicans voting against mental health funding.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=republicans+vote+against+mental+health+funding

    • UnderwaterSwift@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      Mental health institutions were shut down because of the widespread neglect, abuse, and sexual assault that happened there. Not to mention the lack of funding. Did Regan pass some bill sent by the legislature? Yeah sure, but he wasn’t raping special needs women with impunity. People were also (rarely) involuntarily committed to get rid of them. The whole system was fucked and has been absorbed into prisons now. I don’t have any feelings for Regan one way or the other (way before my time tbh) but pinning that on him or conservatives isn’t really correct.

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        1 year ago

        The system is fucked and lacks funding, oh well let’s throw it out. Regan was okay with this because he, and almost all politicians, don’t have to live amidst it. I’m not a fan of electing people who say “it doesn’t work and it doesn’t have a chance of working so let’s not do anything about it”.

        There are plenty of examples of systems that work, if ours doesn’t work then I expect elected officials to do something about it, not spit into the wind.

      • FeetinMashedPotatoes@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Dismissing the issue as saying all mental health institutions were shit back then and he got rid of them for good reasons is just as bad as saying mass shooters issue is mental health not guns. You’re hiding behind the obvious solutions. Manage the amount of access to guns, especially for people with mental health problems. Put funding, work, policies, mandates into those mental institutions, don’t just fucking get rid of them who the fuck is that gonna help in the end?

        • UnderwaterSwift@sh.itjust.works
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          1 year ago

          I’m not taking a stance on that at all, I’m just stating Regan didn’t shut down mental asylums that used to contain all the school shooters.