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“I use Linux as my operating system,” I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to mansplain with extreme precision. “Actually”, he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!’ I don’t miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn’t include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It’s Linux, but it’s not GNU+Linux.
The smile quickly drops from the man’s face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams “I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT’S STILL GNU!” Coolly, I reply “If windows was compiled With gcc, would that make it GNU?” I interrupt his response with “-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even you were correct, you wont be for long.”
With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man’s life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I’ve womansplained him to death.
Also, Unix ≠ Linux.
It’s only called UNIX if it comes from the Santa Cruz region of California, otherwise it’s a sparkling POSIX.
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Technically, no, indeed. On paper, most (outside UNIX purists) refer to it (and MINIX) as Unix-like, as they don’t share much from UNIX outside the underlying philosophy. Ritchie himself still thought of Linux as mostly Unix in essence. Same kind of Ayckchyually, basically lol
Linux is not Unix
That’s what i said.
No, you said Linux is not equal to Unix, which is also technically correct.
No, he said Unix is not equal to Linux. xD
I can see the value of this. Linux \not \in Unix, and also Linux \not = Unix.
given Android, it might even be that most linuxes aren’t GNU/linux
When Android came out, it really hit this and the limits of the GPLvII home for me
And not all GNU is Linux! Beyond the world famous GNU Hurd, there’s also Debian GNU/kFreeBSD, and Nexenta (GNU/Illumos, which is the OpenSolaris kernel).
I think the most esoteric of them, though, is GNU Darwin (GNU/XNU). Darwin is the open source parts of OS X, including its kernel, XNU. There used to be an OpenDarwin project to try to turn Darwin into an actual independent operating system, but they failed, and were superseded by PureDarwin, which took a harder line against anything OS X getting into the system. GNU Darwin took it one step further and removed just about all of Darwin (except XNU) and replaced it with GNU instead.
Honestly when I first read that I just assumed that ChimeraOS decided to go in an new direction. Also it’s not like ChimeraOS is some small super niche distro it seems relatively popular.
Yes, officer. This blasphemer right here.
I would argue that Android has very little to do with Linux. You don’t even have to go far into the quirks of the userland, the kernel is a heavily modified flavor of it to which the linux documentation simply does not apply, or not really accurately.
With recent versions it might be better now, but holy guacamole it is very bad in those before that, basically it’s filled with nonstandard modifications (well, probably depends on what you call standard, though…)
android works on upstream kernel fine. in fact, you can even run a linux chroot inside of a booted android perfectly fine. android, especially newer ones, really arent that far off normal linux at all anymore, hell Waydroid is literally running android inside of an LXC container with some patches to get proper integration with the host working
nobody is saying that linux distros that don’t have the gnu core utils needs to be called GNU/Linux
And nobody is saying that they do. But there are plenty of people who are unaware that non-GNU Linuxes exist.
But there are plenty of people who are unaware that
non-GNULinuxesexist.And plenty who don’t know you can GNU without Linux.
After 33 years of development, GNU/Hurd still may not be ready for production use, but it’s not quite dead 💀 🦜
Also true. Feel free to make an informational post on the matter.
But if the GNU Project created an OS based on SerenityOS, would it be GNU/Serenity? 🤔
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Aaaand Redox. Which is not Linux, but may some time in some Future replace it.
🤞 I’d rather chew glass than deal with C again.
