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Can you not imagine a scenario where there are innocuous comments getting deleted? Do you really have that much faith in AI that you trust it would always make the correct decision in removing comments? Do I have to try to find other instances online of people being unable to post completely harmless comments that get deleted for seemingly no reason?
I explained the reason why I’m not specifying the exact content, though I actually did give examples which people ignored and demanded to know more. Evidently, it would further distract from the actual question and stop people from answering it, and also it’s varied what gets deleted and doesn’t even follow a consistent formula.
This is really disheartening, tbh.
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So you’re incapable of imagining a hypothetical where even you agree that what I’m trying to say is completely innocuous?
Or do you actually think that there’s no situation when an innocuous comment gets deleted (even though there are countless examples online of people in the same situation as me)?
Honestly worrying if people have this much faith in auto-moderation systems.
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It’s not one comment like I said. It’s at least 50% of the comments I make, completely harmless.
Sometimes I might say things like “This is really messed up” and it gets deleted. Or often it’s not even that, like just random sentences. I literally can’t think of examples because it happens so often. As many other people can attest to, their account often seems to be unable to comment completely innocuous things while other accounts are able to. If you have supreme faith in AI and YouTube auto-moderation, then you might say “Whatever is happening, you deserve it.” Which seems to be the prevailing view here, sadly.
But I just ask you to think a bit more compassionately and not assume the worst of people. There are many cases of similar situations that prove that there are completely innocent people having their comments removed for no reason. I’m thinking I might have to find one and post it here so people believe me.
See what I mean? I provide examples and no one cares. Just more downvotes. Just really toxic behaviour here. You are probably the ones who deserve to have your comments deleted more than me.
First, it’s the responsibility of channel owners to delete comments. They can use an automod from Youtube itself, which is quite bad and often doesn’t delete comments that should be deleted.
So many channel owners use open source tools that are more capable and/or do manual moderation. And they do use banlists that automatically delete all comments by users on the banlist. Considering that you admitted that 50% of your comments are problematic and worth being deleted, you probably already are on many of these banlists.
Second, you didn’t provide examples (plural), but only one example: “That’s really messed up”. You didn’t provide any context. And depending on the context, this comment could be totally not ok. E.g.: “Poor people have a right to live” - “That’s totally messed up”.
And third: By your own admission, 50% of your comments are bad and deserve to be banned. Looking at your comment history, that’s a very favourable estimate. That is toxic behaviour and you don’t get any pitty points for being sad that you get blocked.
If you don’t want to be blocked, try to keep your toxic shitposting closer to 0% and not at 50%.
Also, people are being incredibly rude for no reason. “Little homie”? And why are you assuming my gender? Weird internet stuff.
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Was the assumption false?
Well look at that. It turns are there ARE stupid questions after all!
Wanting to bypass a broken YouTube detection filter with variant characters is a stupid question?
Yes. For a number of reasons that have been explained to you repeatedly in this thread.
Go away now.
No one is understanding a very basic point, seemingly.
You don’t need to know the content that’s being removed, which is varied, in order to be able to suggest a text character that doesn’t get removed.
People in this thread, mainly one person in particular, is trying to argue that they would need to know what the content is in order to suggest a text character. That literally makes no sense.
If you know a text character that might work, then that would be helpful, and you don’t need to know what the content is in order to provide that.
Please tell me you understand this.
It’s not that they need to know that to provide a potential answer, it’s that they want to know that before they decide to help you bypass a filter.
This place reeks of a lack of empathy, seriously. I explained my situation and it does make sense. But people (not you specifically) are being really rude.
I don’t think there’s a lack of empathy, especially when you consider that we may be concerned for the more numerous viewers who could potentially see your comments if we help you bypass the filters that you seem to be running into more than just occasionally.
I provided examples already, and I also said that I’m not trying to say anything bad in any way. But people don’t believe me, and demand to know more, and won’t accept the answers I give. They assume the worst of me and make a lot of false accusations.
On top of that, people are rude and insult me for no reason.
Everything I say gets downvoted no matter how reasonable it is.
Yes, this is unempathetic. I know empathetic people. This is not that.
Also, everyone knows people on Reddit (and the culture here is basically the same as Reddit) are really rude and unempathetic to anyone asking for help. So this isn’t limited to this thread at all.
Trust me, you are rare as a more reasonable person on this platform by the fact that what you’re saying actually makes sense and is somewhat kind natured. So I appreciate that at least.
A user here repeatedly tried to argue that they physically could not provide an answer without knowing the content. I think they realised their logic didn’t make sense after I explained it clearly, because they stopped replying.
I’m still here. I just realized that you’re never going to tell us what you said. Have a good day (or night). Perhaps for the future consider if being hostile and evasive is the best disposition when asking for help. I know this will likely trigger an argumentative reply, but consider that the harder tone you take, the more of an issue your behavior becomes and the opening issue becomes less the topic of discussion.
Look I appreciate if you were trying to help. But what you were saying honestly didn’t make sense.
I really don’t think I was being hostile. I tried to explain my position clearly, that for multiple reasons I’m unable to state exact comments that have been removed, though I gave you general examples. You seemed to ignore this multiple times and at that point I didn’t know how else to explain it.
And you tried to argue that you weren’t able to provide a character format without knowing the exact content, inaccurately comparing it to someone not telling you what problem they were having with their car, even though I have explained the problem and there’s nothing preventing anyone from helping with it in this case.
All it requires is the knowledge and willingness to suggest a text character that doesn’t get removed.
This is really hard to understand for me, if someone else asked for help with this, I would just help if I could. I wouldn’t try to determine what the person is commenting.
So are you still saying you can’t physically help with what I’m asking? Or do you just not want to help unless I tell you the content, because you can’t trust that what I’m commenting is completely innocuous and getting deleted for no reason? Do we not trust each other at our word anymore in this society?
Everyone here understand the point. It’s just that this point is dumb.
Tricks like that worked in the early 2000s. Nowadays, these tricks are much more likely to get you banned rather than the other way round.
All of these automod bots have features that can decypher stuff like that.
I understand alright.
I also understand nobody wants to read your comments. On YouTube. It’s like a toilet shooting your shit back in your face because it’s too filthy.
So no, I don’t NEED to know what the content of the messages is. But I WANT to know, because until this post I honestly could not imagine ANYTHING being too crappy for YouTube to leave up.
And no, I’m not going to help you no matter what. Your comments have more red flags than the Korean workers party annual conference.
You don’t need to post comments on youtube. You’re asking for people to do you a favor. They’re asking for more information before they do the favor. If you don’t want to fulfill the requirements, fine, but quit trying to act self-righteous because you’re willing to spend far more time trying to claim you don’t need to answer the question than it would take to answer the question, and going to that much effort to obfuscate rather than elucidate, suggests that whatever it is you are hiding would be seen as bad.
No one is understanding a very basic point, seemingly.
Maybe that point isn’t being well explained.
Or maybe people disagree with your basic premise.
I think you believe that this is a big problem that a large portion of the population here experience, but it’s really not. I have no idea what you’re talking about. Going by some of the replies, lots of other folks don’t either.
We cannot help you if we don’t know what you’re talking about, and we won’t better understand what you’re talking about unless you give us more information. That’s it, really.
You can help, if you’re able to. Not wanting to help with this is something different.
I explained that my comments are being deleted. No one needs to know what every single comment I posted is, in order to suggest a text character that works. I already gave some examples, but people are demanding more. No matter what I say, they refuse to help.
Btw it does happen to a lot of people, and I’ve seen lots of people complaining of it in comments sections as well as on Reddit.
These lots of people are a very specific bubble: the idiots who can’t behave on the internet. All the others don’t have that issue.
It’s also not autoblocking by Youtube, but you being banned by channel admins. They use bots to automatically delete any content an user posted who already posted multiple dumb/offensive/toxic posts.
Changing the letters to some similar looking letters won’t help you, because YOU are banned.
If by your own admission 50% of your posts are questionable at best, you deserve bans.
I did not say 50% of my comments are questionable. I said about that many get removed for no reason despite being harmless. It’s you who is making negative assumptions about a human being and choosing to put all your faith in technology and AI to work correctly when it clearly doesn’t. And no, again, it’s not channels. Channel owners have confirmed to me they’re not deleting my comments and they don’t know why they get removed.
I have no idea what you posted so I cannot help.
And it makes no difference to me if everyone is talking about it or not - I still have no idea what you’re talking about.
I have three questions.
1: Why would you want to post comments there?
2: If your comments are being deleted, why would you want to post comments there?
3: Seriously, why would you want to post comments there?
You know you don’t have to use these big tech platforms right?
Stop bowing down to their madness and just be OK with not having YouTube. It’s not like water you know. You don’t need them to survive.
Upvoted for acknowledging the madness of YouTube. It’s a broken platform and this crazy comment deletion that doesn’t even work properly and deletes completely normal comments is the worst thing they’ve done ever since its inception, tbh.
The only problem - everyone uses it. And it’s a good source of info for all sorts of things (disassembly tutorials, DIY, etc.).
There is more misinformation than information on Youtube
Look at the DIY and disassembly tutorials, I can vouch that most (if not all) of them are great and don’t misinform on anything.
Some of the ideas may be stupid though, I can agree with that 😂.
It’s okay to simply watch a video and not comment on it
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I would permaban that on sight no matter what it said.
Thank you.
I think you’re running into a bunch of detection that has very little to do with technology.
Maybe it’s the creators that delete your comments as well. Doesn’t have to be only YT.
So what did you post that might’ve been a red flag?
I’ve noticed Youtube nuking my comments if they contain words related to money, if they contain too many brands, if they contain technical term, etc.
Comments that don’t have much in terms of meaning or information go through just fine.
So… Just, write like you’re 5 years old and split long messages into several comments.
THANK YOU! Someone who has experienced the same thing. That’s exactly what I mean. I can’t even mention companies like Amazon in any context, even when it’s not negative at all.
And yes, separating my comments and rewording them for absolutely no reason when they still say the same thing, can sometimes work, and other times doesn’t. It’s really annoying.
And of course you get downvoted even when you provide reasonable examples. I already gave them examples but they demanded to know more and continue to make various assumptions about me.
People here are so closed-minded honestly, that they can’t possibly believe that there are major flaws with YouTube’s comment deletion algorithm, and they can impact some people more than others for no reason. Do they have so much faith in these companies and automated systems that they can’t possibly fathom they might not work properly or fairly 100% of the time? Or can people not even accept that other people’s experiences with the same things might be different than theirs? It reminds me of people who refuse to believe other intelligent life could exist somewhere in the universe. They can’t even accept it as a hypothetical.
And now go on, downvote me. It’s so mindless.
Sorry for the rant. These people frustrate me.
Human’s for you, what can I say.
We all are guilty of similar behavior. You, I, your neighbor- Everyone.
It’s often hard to believe something, when your own experience is vastly different from what someone describes.
The obvious answer is your Youtube/gmail/phone number are shadowbanned and you need a new account/phone number.
Lemmy users are such karens
