I seriously cannot have any degree of nuanced conversation here.

Like I get it, we all know capitalism is bad, but it feels like every time I or anyone go towards discussing the steps that need to be taken to address current looming problems in the short term, someone has to jump in and shut it down with "capitalism bad >:[ " and tear down any idea presented because its not complete and total destruction of the current economic model.

The result just feels like an echo chamber where no actual solutions get presented other than someone posting whole ass dissertations on their 33-step (where 30/33 steps are about as vague as “we’ll just handle it”) plan to fully convert the world to an anarchist commune.

Edit: I still vastly prefer Lemmy and the fediverse and a whole, my complaint here is that many of you are TOO INTENSE. You blow up small scale discussion.

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      9 months ago

      Yes.

      But, that post has been downvoted enough that it is the lowest-ranked reply. The system is working.

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      I think it’s that we’ve all been over this a million times, and we’re suffering while bickering about steps.

      My conclusion: “People matter more than money, and without people money wouldn’t matter.”

      If you want to get more nuanced please try. That’s about as bulletproof and simple as it gets.

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        Alright! You and me, we can have a nuanced discussion about the how to implement rent control or other means of combatting the housing crisis at a local level without a third person jumping on to talk about how this problem is bigger and we need to go right out to global revolution, which everyone jumps on and leaves the smaller scale discussion in the dust.

        Of course I’m exaggerating a bit, but this is the general flow on Lemmy as I see it.

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          all for rent control. Sadly it reminds me of my old neighborhood. We were supposed to get new “low income” housing nearby and I was stoked for that to bring more life to the area. Nope, NIMBY-ass neighbors had to block the street in protest… and the city caved. I was heartbroken and even told the snooty neighbor who came to our door the next day, “I live here with roommates. I’M LOW INCOME. I live here quietly, we are considerate to the neighborhood. I’m sorry we’re so unwelcome here.”

          Now expensive town houses are there and last I saw, they were mostly empty and priced upwards of $800k.

          I think people jump on revolution so quickly, because it feels like the ship is sinking and we’re debating on which rooms to mop first. Well, those who are already up to their necks in water, have little concern for the wet shoes of the people above, and quite frankly don’t deserve to drown simply because they work below deck.