The Biden administration is starting to change their tone on supporting israel’s Genocide in Gaza because they are losing votes.

By claiming that people need to keep voting for Biden (else Trump wins!) you are directly enabling Biden to continue supporting israel’s Genocide.

The faster Biden starts dropping in the polling the faster the Genocide will stop.

When the Genocide stops (and Biden has the power to stop it) the argument falls apart and Biden can actually campaign. Especially if a real solution to the problem is reached.

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    This only makes sense in a vacuum.

    Talk about the other side. What happens when Biden loses? Who does he lose to? What are the expected actions of the person he loses to?

    Or, are you counting Biden winning despite the lower poll numbers you’re advocating for?

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      The sooner Biden fixes this issue the sooner people can start voting for him again.

      Are you saying this Genocide needs to go on until November?

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          Or, are you counting Biden winning despite the lower poll numbers you’re advocating for?

          I’m counting on the lower poll numbers leading to Biden fixing the issue. These primaries don’t affect the real elections. If people tank his polling numbers now Biden must fix the issue.

          After the issue gets fixed, those people will vote for Biden again

          You are counting on the Biden ignoring the issue and have a chance to win.

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            Are you saying this Genocide needs to go on until November?

            No. Biden is putting pressure on Netanyahu to end his invasion of Gaza and the West Bank. Except it was Hamas this time who rejected the cease-fire deal.

            I expect Biden to do what he can. That is, he damn sure shouldn’t be sending arms and ammunition to Israel and he should continue pressuring Netanyahu. But, unlike you, I’m not under the illusion that he can “fix” this. In other words, I don’t believe a drop in the polls would stop the genocide.

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              Except Hamas did not reject a ceasefire deal. Hamas’ ceasefire deal is still available. Which would lead to a permanent ceasefire and actually address the issue

              Biden clearly did not put enough pressure on Netanyahu to accept that deal. So Netanyahu offered a shitty non-starter temporary ceasefire for all the hostages deal. As israelis always do, and then pretend like the other party doesn’t want to agree.

              And then super informed Biden voters post that shit as “evidence” for their point, further showcasing their intelligence.

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                And then super informed Biden voters post that shit as “evidence” for their point, further showcasing their intelligence.

                I never claimed to be intelligent. Your disappointment is your problem.

                Except Hamas did not reject a ceasefire deal. Hamas’ ceasefire deal is still available. Which would lead to a permanent ceasefire and actually address the issue

                Well, Hamas did reject Israel’s version, but insists on their own non-negotiable demands. (Notice how I bring the evidence that you, in your arrogance, didn’t).

                I don’t think Americans care either way whose ceasefire terms are accepted so long as they eventually are. Israel wants it to be temporary, Hamas wants it to be permanent.

                Which do you think is better for Biden?

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                  A permanent ceasefire is the only solution.

                  Israel rejectee the real offer. There is no reasonable counter offer being made.

                  Deferring the issue a few weeks just means it will blow up again later as it has after the last temporary ceasefire.