Featuring Ryan Grim, writer for The Intercept.

  • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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    8 months ago

    BUT TRUMP!

    100.000 people in Michigan aren’t But Trumping anymore.

    The sooner you face reality the better. Biden needs to stop funding israel FAST

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      8 months ago

      That is quite the reductive and shortsighted take. Now of all times you’re gonna protest and not vote? We are very near to the end of the American democracy experiment and you choose now to stand by single issue ultimatums.

      The irony is by fucking the D vote, you will only have ensured Palestine’s end, in addition to Ukraine and later nato. You played yourself and we all suffer for your braindead mistake

      Do your duty and vote for the lesser evil like every goddamn American citizen that did theirs before you

      • Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works
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        8 months ago

        That’s because OP is an opposition account. Intentional or not.

        The point of all the anti-Biden spamming is to suppress turn out. They’ll never concede Biden is the reasonable up coming choice. They’ll always twist the conversation to how Biden is bad. And you should feel bad for voting for him.

        It’s meant to elicit an emotional response. Make voters feel guilty about making a less than ideal but correct choice. It’s the most effective way of getting people on the left to stay home.

        These kinds of posts have been all over social media since 2016 election. It’s a really common pattern of activity to spot after a while.

    • kescusay@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Biden isn’t funding Israel. Congress is. Biden is trying to walk a tightrope of maintaining relations with an increasingly extremist ally (to prevent them from going even more extremist) and using diplomacy to defuse the situation in Gaza. He’s doing the best he possibly could in a horrible situation with no “good guys.”

      Should he lose in November to Trump, Trump will immediately abandon Ukraine and try to help Israel completely level Gaza. So your choices are a guy trying hard in an impossible situation, and a guy who will definitely make that impossible situation much, much worse for everyone in every conceivable way.

      • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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        8 months ago

        Did my eyes deceive my when Joe Biden tried to get israel 15 Billion dollars?

        Joe Biden has been a fervent Zionist his entire life he is very open about that. And this is not the first time israel started committing war-crimes. Biden is almost as old as israel he knows exactly what they are doing.

        Look cool numbers. Who’s on top here, is that Donald Trump-R?

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              The predictable use of “Zionist” as an epithet for “someone who supports Israeli expansionism and aggression,” when all it really means is “someone who supports Israel’s right to exist.”

              If you support Israel’s right to exist as a country, then you are also a Zionist - even if you disagree with the current Israeli government (as I do).

              As for the money from Biden to Israel, that includes more than three decades, during which Israel’s government has changed drastically. It is also a non sequitur in a discussion of military aid, which I thought we were having. And I stand by my assertion there: The military aid (not private donations) is determined by Congress. They hold the purse strings.

              • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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                That is not what Zionism means at all. Zionism means a Jewish ethno state where no non-Jews are allowed.

                Are you saying Jews are not safe in America? Biden sure is.

                Strange that Biden keeps repeating that he’s a Zionist while israel is Genocide too.

                • kescusay@lemmy.world
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                  8 months ago

                  Holy shit… Citing TRT World?

                  Biden is saying no such thing, and neither am I. I’m saying that the current country, Israel, has a right to exist. Nothing more, nothing less. I’m also saying, in case you missed it, that their current government is horrible and has engaged in atrocities.

                  Biden’s job - and it’s a difficult one - is threading the needle on maintaining good ties with an ally while using diplomacy to try to end the violence in Gaza.

                  What is your goal, Linkerbaan? Four more years of President Trump wholeheartedly supporting the absolute destruction of Gaza and Palestine? Because that’s what you get if you are successful in going after Biden for not being anti-Israel. You get Trump and Netanyahu happily working together to wipe Palestine off the face of the Earth, as well as leaving Ukraine out to dry.