• TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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    27 days ago

    We want to vote for zero genocide

    What I said was that you should not vote for or normalize genocide. You and others apparently disagree.

    So tell me that you think you should support genocide or vote for genocide candidates.

    This dithering is just lying to yourselves and others. In support of genocide.

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                  25 days ago

                  “Shooting this dog will save the world. Take this gun. Will you shoot it?” Is also a yes or no question, but answering it entertains the notion that shooting the dog will save the world. The correct answer is “put the gun down, you’re acting silly. Killing the dog won’t save the world.”

                  I fucking agree that both candidates are disasters for Palestine. But if you’re really gonna try to challenge that beast, start organising for a grassroots movement to overthrow the entire corrupt bourgeois state to place the means of production in the hands of the proletariat.

                  But you won’t. I know you won’t. So in the meantime, you have to choose your best realistic option: vote. And you also have to be realistic when you vote. A third party candidate would need a genuine miracle to win at this stage, because they need serious momentum early on in the election season to have even a modicum of a chance at winning. And the FPTP system guarantees that only one of the two major parties will win.

                  So you’re left with an imperialist who also wants to shit on their own country, and an imperialist who sort of paternalisticslly wants to “help” their country. Neither are great. Neither are even “good”. But one stinks a little less.

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                    25 days ago

                    Waiting on that yes or no answer.

                    Edit: and I didn’t ask a loaded question so gtfo with that excuse.