• PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    What a garbage article. Elon sucks, the cyber truck sucks, but an article about tweets is less than worthless. Perhaps the article instead of assuming elon just “didn’t have time to run tesla properly”, should dig a bit deeper and demonstrate that tesla was successful despite elon, not because of elon. Same with Space-X or Star-link.

    Now as far as why the cyber truck is getting stuck in snow, tires is the low-effort answer, but maybe look at the weight of the truck versus the contact area. Maybe look at how the traction control system works? How about whether the car is front wheel bias vs rear-wheel biased. Does it make assumptions about which wheels have contact to the ground? Does it have a differential or are all 4 wheels independently controlled? (I don’t know the answer to any of these by the way, but if I were concerned about a vehicle getting stuck in the snow, I’d certainly want an analysis that addresses all of the above.)

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      9 months ago

      Welcome to modern “journalism”, throwing together a few sentences based on twitter and reddit posts, without any research or asking experts.

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    9 months ago

    I’m curious if this is a “Cyber Truck” issue or an electric vehicle / drive train issue. I mean, do the electric motors in these vehicles have “gears”?

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      9 months ago

      Technically they have gears, but not as you normally think of gears.

      In my opinion, Partially it’s an electric vehicle thing (lots of torque) and partially it’s a software thing (wheel slip and torque control algorithms) The suspension design and tire size choice could affect this as well, but not as much in my opinion as the previous points.

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      9 months ago

      I don’t think it’s something with it being electric. I haven’t had snow in a while, but about 2 years ago I went to an unplowed parking lot and some unplowed streets to see how my Model Y would work and it handled 3-4 inches fine.

      They have the ability to make some kind of vehicle that can handle a few inches of snow, it’s wild this would be an issue in a vehicle that people are likely to take off the road.

      I wonder if the tires on the Cybertruck are too narrow for it’s weight or something.

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      9 months ago

      These trucks are really heavy, being made out of metal. Google says 6600-6800lbs while a F150 is 4200-5700 lbs

      No idea on the drive train, would be interesting to see though!

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    9 months ago

    Several comments about tires being the issue. I’ve driven through worse with a simple set of all-seasons - is there something special about EV tires that make them perform so poorly in these conditions?

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    9 months ago

    Egh, looks like the facebook crowd has come to Lemmy.

    Wrong tires… It’s that simple…

    I hate Elon as much as the rest of us, but this reads like it’s written by the Anti-EV crowd. All it needs is an ad for a Dodge RAM at the bottom… And, I don’t particularly find the cybertruck (or any large truck), appealing at all tbh

    I can put the wrong tires on my jeep too, and skid off the road when its wet… Not everywhere needs snow tyres (here in Australia, they would be useless), and I’d be guessing they’re less efficient too?

    Also, I’m not really sure how it works with deep snow (since I’m here in Australia), but wouldn’t snowchains help as an alternative? Or can you not use them on EV’s?.. Or do they not work with deep snow?

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      Not anti-EV crowd, just anti-Elon. I hate him as much as anyone else but people just throw absolutely any rationale out the window when it comes to anything he’s involved with (especially around here).

      I’ve seen several leftists at this point straight up turn their backs on EVs and literally start parroting conservative propaganda about them. So sad.

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        9 months ago

        If you are leftist you should be anti-ev. All EVs do is propagate car-centric social development which is a cancer to any potentially better world.

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            Disagree. EVs only environmental advantage is tail-pipe emissions. But they are significantly worse for society then tail-pipe emissions are. Being heavier damages the road more, and causes more tire and brake wear. Proprietary batteries mean that they are thrown away more often then gas cars. More limited range means that more car infrastrucutre is required to support them.

            At the end of the day, the limited-taxes we have in the US that discourage driving, EVs are allowed to side-step, so from a societal point of view, EVs are absolutely worse in everyway (except trivial tail-pipe emissions). If you are a leftist who has to drive a car, an EV wouldn’t even be a viable option. You’d be better off in a hybrid.

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              EVs only environmental advantage is tail-pipe emissions.

              Thank you for making my point. That’s exactly the type of conservative parroting I was referring to and it’s absolutely not true. Good job 👍

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                Have you read about the actual environmental costs and material extraction needed for electric cars? EVs are about saving the auto industry when gas runs out. Not about saving the environment.

                The conservative parroting usually takes a sliver of truth and runs with it while tacking on other bullshit to make it seem legit. The “anything to own the libs” is part of that dogma, but pushing a con is easier with a twisted truth to lead the bigger lies.