• DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world
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    I live in a “first past the post” country that forces a two-party system and penalizes voting your conscience unless it aligns with one of those parties. While there may be flaws in Ranked Choice Voting that could emerge in fringe cases, it is so obviously superior to our current system that it is hard for me to worry too much about the nuance of how it might not be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Any (democratic) system is better than what we have now.

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      I live in a “first past the post” country that forces a two-party system and penalizes voting your conscience unless it aligns with one of those parties. While there may be flaws in Ranked Choice Voting that could emerge in fringe cases, it is so obviously superior to our current system that it is hard for me to worry too much about the nuance of how it might not be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Any (democratic) system is better than what we have now.

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        I̴͖̿ ̴̉͜l̵̫̆i̵̠̊v̵̫͠ē̷̱ ̷̛̥î̸̢n̸͓͐ ̴̻̔a̷͗ͅ ̸͕͌"̵̝͐f̵̤̀i̸̢͐r̶̮̄ś̴͙t̶̫̚ ̸̠̉p̸̰͗a̷̙͒š̶͚t̷̪́ ̸̧̚t̶̳̕h̸̤̋ẽ̸͓ ̸̨̅p̶̣͠ō̵͖s̵̖̀t̵̬͠"̵̮̆ ̸̟͂c̶͉̒o̷̧̽u̷̙̓n̸̮̈t̶̫͝ṙ̶̬ý̸͙ ̵̯́ť̵̨h̸̻͊a̸̙̾ț̵̀ ̴̬̈́f̴̲̉ò̶̩r̷̯̕č̵̲e̷̩͐s̵̥̽ ̷͖̾à̵͍ ̵͂͜t̷̫͛w̵̮͑o̵̢̍-̶̦̓p̵̬̈ä̸̳r̶̼͝t̴̺̄ý̴̡ ̶̧̒ŝ̶̲y̴̪͆s̷͎͝ẗ̶̤ḙ̶̎m̴̯̂ ̶̠̌a̶͇̋ṅ̵̡d̸̦́ ̷͈͘p̴̺͝ȅ̶̟n̸̙̓ä̵͚́l̷͙̚i̵͈̓z̶̩̅é̷̖s̴͎̉ ̷̧͘v̶̪͛õ̵ͅṭ̵͗i̷͙̾n̴̼̔g̶̛̟ ̵̥̕ỷ̷̡ò̷̹u̵̬̚r̸͓̓ ̶̼̓c̸̩͑ȍ̷̲n̴̞͆s̷̰͗c̵̖̏i̶̥͊e̸̝͆n̴͉͋c̸̜̅ẹ̷́ ̴̝̍ṵ̶̋ṇ̷͝l̸̯̉è̴̙š̸̖s̴͎͐ ̴̲̐ị̴́t̸̹͐ ̵̬̀a̵̮̓l̸̺̈́i̵̬̒ģ̸̚n̶̻͂s̴̠͂ ̷͖̚w̷͙̆ì̷̺t̴̳̔ḧ̴͕́ ̴̣͂ő̷̡n̸̫͠e̷̥̿ ̸̧̒o̴̞̕ḟ̵͖ ̶͖͝t̸̖̃h̷̕͜ǫ̵̎s̶͉͆ẻ̵̙ ̷̨̓p̸͎̏á̷̭r̸̹͊t̸̻͗i̵̫̓ȩ̶̀s̶̹͝.̶͔̄ ̷͙̉Ẅ̷̘́h̷̤̽i̸͙̊ḽ̸̔ē̸̡ ̸̟̈́t̷͐ͅh̵̜̑e̵̗͊r̷̲͋ĕ̶̝ ̵͕̏m̵̬̑a̷̯̽y̴̡̔ ̶̹͂b̴̨̕e̴̺̚ ̴̖͠f̷̯͒l̸͚͒a̵̤̽ẃ̸̺s̵̲͠ ̶̮̏i̸͎̓n̴̘͊ ̸͓̄Ṙ̶͍a̴̘͆ṅ̷͔k̸͕̕e̶̟̅d̶̦̐ ̵̩̓C̵̛͎h̴̯̅ò̶̪i̴͇͑c̵̯͐e̷̡̎ ̶͚͗V̴̺̈o̸̩͒t̸̘̉ĩ̸͚n̴͓͋g̴̙͐ ̵̹̑t̷̪̏h̴͍̀ȁ̶͉t̸̟̒ ̸͎̌c̵͙̓o̷͎̎ú̷͇l̷̝͗d̶̹̃ ̸̛̪e̶͍̊m̷͚̌ë̵͔́ṟ̵͝ġ̸͉e̷̱͊ ̴̱͝į̵̋n̷̳̊ ̵̐͜f̴̠́r̵͔̊ȉ̶̻ń̸͔g̵͈̎e̵͔̓ ̵̻͝c̶̈́͜à̸̧s̴̘̅e̵̦̊s̴̩̉,̵̛̬ ̷̻͊í̴̡t̷͇̽ ̷̨͋ỉ̷̝s̷͙̅ ̵̖̍s̶̨͗o̸̗͌ ̵̧̐ỏ̸̟b̸͕̕v̴̻̓i̷̳̋ö̸͇́u̴̬͗s̵͙͑l̶̛͕ỵ̸͒ ̵͚͠ś̸̤ů̵̱p̸͈̊e̶͓̍r̴̗͛ỉ̶̦o̶͓͂r̷̡͝ ̸̩̏t̴̜͗ō̵̲ ̸̹̓o̸̞͂ù̸̜ȓ̵̺ ̸̱̀c̵̗̿ū̸̢r̶͓̾r̷̢̔e̸͇͠n̷͚̐ṱ̸̾ ̵͎̈s̷̋͜ẙ̶͙ș̴̑ṱ̶̓ē̶͉m̴̪̒ ̵͇̅ẗ̷́ͅh̸͉̄a̶͔̅t̵̘͆ ̶̪̿ǐ̵̬t̶̻̆ ̵̥̈ī̶̪s̴̚ͅ ̴̻̕ḥ̵͆a̸̔͜r̵̭͠d̸̲͝ ̸̨͌f̶͉͛o̴̹̊r̶̙̚ ̷͙͐m̷̪̋e̸͓͝ ̶̮͌t̷̺͊o̸͙̊ ̶̡̚w̵͍̅o̷̥͌r̷̠͆r̷͈͌ý̵̦ ̴͙̄t̸̝͂ỏ̴̥ŏ̷̲ ̷͔̈m̷̡̏ű̶̘c̶͎͐h̷̻́ ̴͕̈́ǎ̸̹b̶̡̃ọ̷͒ủ̸̟ẗ̸́͜ ̴̖̒t̶͖͛h̴͈͛e̶̫̅ ̶͎͝n̸̥̎u̶̹̎a̸͔͐n̴͓̎c̵̻̔e̸̹̐ ̶͇̐o̴̝͌f̶̖̚ ̴̙̓ḣ̶̹o̶͍̚w̵̻̚ ̵͓̂í̵̻ť̵̡ ̶̧̈́m̴̥̓i̴͉̅g̵͎͂ḧ̸͓́t̸̠̃ ̵̻̂ṋ̶͑ő̶̗t̷̥͂ ̴͉͊b̷̦̊e̴͇͐ ̷̾ͅ1̵̝̀0̸͇̈́0̷̳͑%̶̠̀ ̶̖̎p̷̙͠e̷̗͒r̷̪̀f̸̭̏é̷͜c̴͎̓t̸̛̖ ̴̯̄1̵̡͑0̴̻͠0̶̬͑%̷͍̐ ̸̢̛o̵̤̽f̷̞̒ ̷̲͋t̸̨̒h̵̠̀e̷̦͝ ̴̢́ṫ̵̟i̸͎̇ṃ̴͌è̵͚.̸̫͐ ̶͘͜Ą̸̈n̷̜͋y̷̜͒ ̸̱̈́(̶̣͆d̷̪͆e̸̖̕m̸͈͠o̴̬̿c̶̹̆r̵̩̈́á̸̜ẗ̴̗i̷̯̔c̷͛͜)̵͈̌ ̸͎͑ṣ̸̚y̵̢͠s̸̞̀t̵͖͊e̸̛̲m̵̼͘ ̴̤͠i̷̗͘s̴̟̄ ̴͖̈́b̸̧̒ë̶̹́t̶̤̑t̶͔̉ë̷̪́ȑ̶̲ ̸̩͒t̴̼̀h̶̲̉a̴̒͜n̴̖͂ ̸̙̃w̴͚̒h̴̳̒a̷̫̔t̷̲͝ ̷̘̈́w̵̨͗ē̵̝ ̵̻̏h̸̯͒a̷̡̓v̴̧̎e̶͛͜ ̵̺̕ņ̵̔o̷̧̐w̷̰̚.̶̡̾

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          𝕴̴̧͠ ̷͍̲͝𝖑̷̯̓𝖎̴̟̞̈͐𝖛̴̢͇͛𝖊̴̺̏ ̵̣͆𝖎̶͓͗͠𝖓̷̰̋̚ ̸̩̔́ͅ𝖆̸͚̊ ̶̮̣̀̏"̷̨̇͠𝖋̵͇̗̐𝖎̷̬̌͘𝖗̷̤̐𝖘̵͙̰͛͘𝖙̶̙̥̕ ̸̞̌́𝖕̶̬̌̍𝖆̵̯͝ͅ𝖘̵͉̐͐𝖙̴͕̙̾ ̷̼̄̈𝖙̴̢̛̓𝖍̶̺̱̾̕𝖊̸̼̀͂ ̴̫͙̊𝖕̴̗̈́̈́𝖔̴̧͇͒̅𝖘̶̡̬̾𝖙̷̰̒͜"̸̺͇̓ ̶͚̠̋𝖈̸̥̟͗𝖔̵͖͈͐̿𝖚̶̲̊𝖓̷̧̻͐͌𝖙̷̙̲͘𝖗̸̨̄𝖞̴̹̉̎ ̸̤̊̀𝖙̸͕́̓𝖍̷̹͚͝𝖆̵̝̌𝖙̷̲̎̽ ̷͉̈́𝖋̸͈͕̊͠𝖔̷̛͙̭͑𝖗̶̪͎͐𝖈̵̨̀͠𝖊̵̥͙͝𝖘̵͕̽ ̸̦̱̅𝖆̵̻̺̅ ̴͈̈͋𝖙̵̼̯̐𝖜̸̮͗𝖔̶̝̑-̶̡̣̄𝖕̷͎̓̄𝖆̵̥͊𝖗̶͎͉́͝𝖙̵͔̘̈́͆𝖞̷̺̎̐ ̸͔͑𝖘̵̻̗̈́𝖞̴͚̆̚𝖘̴̖̆͒𝖙̶̡͐𝖊̴̡̛̣̍𝖒̶̥͌ ̴̧̙͐̎𝖆̶̆̍͜𝖓̸̳̪̇͛𝖉̴̟̓͊ ̸̱̂̉𝖕̶̤̥̒͊𝖊̴̲̞̒͒𝖓̶̰̭͒͝𝖆̷̟̥̀𝖑̷̢̫̆𝖎̶̧͕́𝖟̶̪̰̽̓𝖊̴̼͛𝖘̷͇̱̉͌ ̴̞͌𝖛̵̺̪́𝖔̷̥̄͝𝖙̷͙̌̏𝖎̴̠̼̆̍𝖓̵͕̯̄̊𝖌̵̛͉̑ ̸̧̍𝖞̴̣̪̐̏𝖔̷̫̑𝖚̸̱́𝖗̵͚͎̉ ̸̺̏ͅ𝖈̵̮̄𝖔̶̟̬͗̅𝖓̵̞̿̋𝖘̵̰͐𝖈̸̗̤͑𝖎̶̱̾͠𝖊̷̹̩̚𝖓̵̢̓𝖈̴̮̈́͘͜𝖊̷̝͆͘ ̸̠̠͂𝖚̶͎͙̅̈́𝖓̵̰̬̽𝖑̵͙͐͝ͅ𝖊̶̲͙͌̌𝖘̷̡̡̕𝖘̵̰͑ ̶̗́͌͜𝖎̷̫̋𝖙̸͓̳̈́ ̸̤͉̑𝖆̷̥̳͂̉𝖑̴̳̺͂̍𝖎̸̫͓̔𝖌̸̞͈̊𝖓̵͇̬̓𝖘̴͔̲̃ ̶̢͆͋𝖜̴̝̌𝖎̷̳̬̽̿𝖙̵̘̑͠𝖍̷͚͕̎ ̸̻̹̂𝖔̸̧̩́̕𝖓̵̮̝͒͗𝖊̶̼̲͆̿ ̷̩͎͝𝖔̶̹͗ͅ𝖋̵̧̿ ̴̯̬̈̎𝖙̶̲̄͝𝖍̷̰̎̓𝖔̸̬͎͒𝖘̶͍̾𝖊̶̭̘͌ ̵̞̞̑̆𝖕̸͕̍͑𝖆̵͓̅𝖗̷̨̆͐𝖙̷̪̈́̕𝖎̵̪͈͊͐𝖊̸̣͆̃𝖘̷̝̥̎̉.̶͔͆ ̴̼̠̾𝖂̸͕̼͒𝖍̶̖̃͒𝖎̴̧̓̚𝖑̴̖͍́͐𝖊̵̦̗̑͠ ̸͎̈́𝖙̸̞͛𝖍̷̜̄𝖊̵̱̃𝖗̴̢̌̇𝖊̷̦͆ ̶͇̩͊̉𝖒̸̬̉ͅ𝖆̵͕̻͑𝖞̷̳̼̈́̈́ ̷͕̅͝𝖇̶̝͠𝖊̸̀͜ ̴̩͒͜𝖋̸̰͚̑𝖑̵̡͑͌ͅ𝖆̶̤̏͐𝖜̶̤̇̈́𝖘̶̳̉͗ ̶̈́ͅ𝖎̵͗͜𝖓̷̛̱ ̶̞͍̊͋𝕽̸͔̑̆ͅ𝖆̴̧̙͛̍𝖓̷̥͐𝖐̶͚͈̉͝𝖊̷̲̓𝖉̸̙̗̇͆ ̷̪̓̚𝕮̷̥̰̅𝖍̴͉̐͊𝖔̶̧͊𝖎̵̧̿𝖈̵̺̮̏𝖊̸̬̞̂̂ ̴͖̍𝖁̸̢̈̑𝖔̶̥̣͌𝖙̵͙͚͌𝖎̴͉̃̀𝖓̵̞̬̚𝖌̸̧̣͋ ̸̋ͅ𝖙̷̊̈́͜𝖍̷̞̊̚𝖆̵̪̹̋̅𝖙̸̧̂ ̴̢̎𝖈̶̖̠̑𝖔̸̘̥̀͂𝖚̷̅̌͜𝖑̷͓͝𝖉̸͍͊͜ ̵̨̝͂̂𝖊̷̨̥͒̎𝖒̸̭̉͠𝖊̷̼̚𝖗̸͙̺̈𝖌̷̩̤̈́̕𝖊̷͈̘̈́͐ ̸̻̖̋𝖎̵̮̇̚𝖓̶̡͛͝ ̴̖͇͊́𝖋̵̱̱͋̆𝖗̴̨̛̥͝𝖎̴̛̟̋𝖓̶͔̓̈𝖌̴̮̮͝𝖊̴͈͈̉̚ ̸͙̈̒𝖈̴̠͌𝖆̵͓̆́𝖘̶̗͖̾͛𝖊̷̖͈͂𝖘̴͉̀̚,̶̭͇̎ ̵̺͆̒𝖎̶͎̔͒𝖙̴̟̔͗ ̶͍̅̉𝖎̶̧͇́𝖘̴̢̩̋ ̵̛̼̝̔𝖘̶̘̰͛𝖔̸̡̽̔ ̷͓̰̽𝖔̴̘̿̿𝖇̴̢͊̿𝖛̶̤̋̈́𝖎̶̫̑𝖔̷̰̍̑𝖚̴̖͍́͝𝖘̷̢̝͆𝖑̶͔̝̊͗𝖞̸̺̐̊ ̶̼̪̓𝖘̴̞̋͆ͅ𝖚̶̜̅𝖕̵͚̌𝖊̶̤͑͋𝖗̸͙͇̇͠𝖎̷̭͕̈́𝖔̶̟͙̊͌𝖗̶͓̩̈̿ ̶͔͉̅̅𝖙̸̀͜𝖔̷͈̍̅ ̶͓̤͛𝖔̴̫̀𝖚̴̧̈͠ͅ𝖗̶͓̅̍ ̶̘̘̈𝖈̷̛̖̓ͅ𝖚̸̙̀𝖗̸̹͇̈𝖗̷͈̚𝖊̶̅͜𝖓̵̣̠́𝖙̷͍̔ ̴̬͌͠𝖘̴͙̪̄𝖞̶̯̱̊̈́𝖘̷͎̼̈́𝖙̸̥̿͂𝖊̵̟̽𝖒̶̥͋ ̵͚̦̐𝖙̷͎͊͐𝖍̵͔̄͝𝖆̷̬̤͑̃𝖙̴̜̈́̈́ ̵̳̠̒𝖎̷͚͊𝖙̴͎̞͌ ̷͉̲̈́𝖎̴̪̠̆͗𝖘̸̭̕ ̵͇̱̒𝖍̵͍̆̓𝖆̸̻̒̉𝖗̸̫͌̚𝖉̷̺̩͋̃ ̷̤͔͐𝖋̵̨̾̐͜𝖔̸̟̜́̀𝖗̶̘̄̍ ̸͚͝ͅ𝖒̴̭̽̾𝖊̵̖̃̈ ̴͈̚𝖙̸̧̂𝖔̵̢̘̈̍ ̵̺̭͋̒𝖜̸͔̓͊𝖔̷̛̗͜𝖗̵͓̦̚͘𝖗̸̘̑𝖞̶̝̙̋ ̷̨̝͠𝖙̶̢͗͐𝖔̷̧͖̀𝖔̶̧̈́ ̸̡͆𝖒̵͙́𝖚̴̻̊𝖈̶͎͍̉𝖍̸̭̲̕ ̴̡̣̓̐𝖆̶̢̈́𝖇̴̱͛𝖔̴̖͉̔𝖚̸͕̉𝖙̷̧̼̃̓ ̵̭͒𝖙̷̩͗͜𝖍̶͉̤͝𝖊̵̛͓̓ ̶̧͇̒𝖓̴̼͖̊𝖚̴̗̌𝖆̶̠̉́𝖓̷̹̃𝖈̸͖̟̓̀𝖊̷̺̈́ ̷͔̩͗𝖔̶̢͋̐𝖋̸̢̀ ̸͍̚𝖍̵͍̙̓͑𝖔̵͉̉𝖜̴̀̓͜ ̵͈͕̇𝖎̴̪̄𝖙̴̣̆͗ ̴̼͍̊𝖒̴̨͎́𝖎̴̨̠̐𝖌̷̖͂𝖍̸̭̽𝖙̸̡̠͋ ̷̣̕𝖓̶̦̋𝖔̶̦͔͐̈́𝖙̷̛̼̎ ̴̪̍͠𝖇̶͖͈͌𝖊̵̬̰̚ ̷͚͎̈́1̶͈͐̿0̵̩̝̌̐0̸̯͗͌%̷̙̒͝ ̵͔͉̆𝖕̶̝͒𝖊̸̳̈́͒𝖗̸̳͈̀̊𝖋̶̤̊𝖊̷̣̺͛𝖈̴͇͇͐𝖙̸͓͗̄ ̴͌͜1̴̪̐̂0̴͕̍̚0̶̼̱̓͗%̵͎͆ ̴͕͖̉̀𝖔̸̼́̈𝖋̵̧̖̈͘ ̸̳̗̈́𝖙̴̫̊̎𝖍̴̰̮̏𝖊̷̠̍͝ ̵̬̝̑̑𝖙̷͚̃̂𝖎̷̳͔̇𝖒̸̯̏́𝖊̷͓̹̐͝.̴̧̘̓ ̵̨̞̏̾𝕬̸͉̟̔̇𝖓̸̝͈̓𝖞̷̟̬̓ ̷͍̀̄(̷̬̓𝖉̸͔̠̀͝𝖊̶̗͌͗𝖒̷͍͕̓𝖔̴̨̃͗𝖈̵̫̈́̔𝖗̶̹̈́̀𝖆̷̣͝𝖙̵̮͎̂͝𝖎̶̘̺͗̉𝖈̷̠̅͒)̷̨͉́̅ ̴̼̭̒̀𝖘̵̻̞͘𝖞̶̼̞̀́𝖘̷͔̊̐𝖙̷̦́𝖊̵̥̻͒̔𝖒̵͉͖͛ ̸̣̘̈̈𝖎̴̫̅𝖘̸̛͍̯̅ ̷̙͇̿𝖇̶̥̖̅𝖊̷͕͗͊𝖙̷̜̤̿̚𝖙̷͇̓̄𝖊̷̲̈𝖗̷̤͂ ̸̫͔͒𝖙̸͇̀𝖍̴͉̋͝𝖆̷̛̼͕̕𝖓̴̘͚̉̄ ̴͍͓̕̕𝖜̴͖̃̈𝖍̴̢̂̌͜𝖆̶̲̱̒𝖙̸̬͜͝ ̴̬͔̓͠𝖜̵͙̑𝖊̴̣̟̅͆ ̵̻̰̑𝖍̴̬̞̄͠𝖆̵͕̀͝𝖛̶̗̾𝖊̶̩̳̏̽ ̵̣̍𝖓̸̗̐̔𝖔̵̱͊̆𝖜̷̻͗.̶̮͇̈́

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    These are probably comments on this Veritasium video which actually pretty informative.

    That being said, I also live in a “first past the post” country that forces a two-party system and penalizes voting your conscience unless it aligns with one of those parties. While there may be flaws in Ranked Choice Voting that could emerge in fringe cases, it is so obviously superior to our current system that it is hard for me to worry too much about the nuance of how it might not be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Any (democratic) system is better than what we have now.

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    They’re not just “casually” stealing comments. They steal a random comment from the video, then have a bunch of other bots give it a bunch of thumbs up so that it appears towards the top and accumulates more upvotes than most human comments make. 95% of the time it seems, the real comment has one or two upvotes and is buried so far you have to scroll multiple pages to reach it.

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      I’ve also seen a comment where other bots argued with themselves in the replies and ended up recommending a scam.

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        That’s usually about this Indian (or Pakistani?) guy I think about investments. I’ve even seen that one on Reddit.

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        I don’t often invest in a 401k but when I do I use shady services recommended to me by bots.

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        I wouldn’t be surprised, but I’m not convinced downvoting comments has any effect on YouTube.

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      it also makes it a lot harder for skeptics taking a look at their account to reveal they’re a bot. When every actual post is a clear copy and paste but the history is mixed with comments that seem legitimate it takes more digging that’s just not worth doing

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    I suppose that taking a comment and adding breasts is a reasonably-straightforward, mechanical way to make it more appealing.

    This does kind of suggest a potential endgame for what avatars wind up looking like.

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      I suppose that taking a comment and adding breasts is a reasonably-straightforward, mechanical way to make it more appealing.

      This does kind of suggest a potential endgame for what avatars wind up looking like.

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        I suppose that taking a comment and adding breasts is a reasonably-straightforward, mechanical way to make it more appealing.

        This does kind of suggest a potential endgame for what avatars wind up looking like.

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      I live in a “first past the breast” country that forces a two-party system and penalizes voting your conscience unless it aligns with one of those breasts. While there may be flaws in Ranked Choice Voting that could emerge in breast cases, it is so obviously superior to our current system that it is hard for me to worry too much abreast the nuance of how it might not be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Any (breastocratic) system is better than what we have now.

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      I suppose that taking a comment and adding breasts is a reasonably-straightforward, mechanical way to make it more appealing.

      ( . )Y( . )

      This does kind of suggest a potential endgame for what avatars wind up looking like.

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    that’s YouTube right? They let these bots roam free and shadow ban half of my legit comments. The most infuriating is when the bot gets more likes than the original comment.

    edit: I just read the comment and noticed this is probably about the new veritasium video.

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      …why are you commenting on YOUTUBE??? You can’t even track how well your comments did, or what your highest rated comments are. Then half the people change their display names, and trying to follow the conversation just becomes a jumbled mess.

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    Can someone explain to me the reason these bots exists? And why are they always so obvious, all of these bots pics has a girl in them and a very porno ad title kind of name? This bots picture was very mild (pretty normal even actually) compared to what I see in YouTubes comment section everyday… They can be extremely pornographic.

    Is this the new “Russian girl close to you” ad?

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      I’m guessing that once these bots have farmed enough karma, their owners will sell them to other people who will use them for advertising or propaganda.

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      quantity over quality is a pretty effective scam technique, it’s hard to get money from experienced technical users. So the initial hook is sometimes designed to intentionally be obvious to those users so they know to ignore it, so that the scammers don’t waste their resources on the later stages of the scam

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      If you click on the profile page there’s usually some link in them. Unfortunately YT removed the ability to report spam comments recently. lol

      Edit: That’s for YT bots. I don’t know what platform this is but I’d assume it is probably the same there.

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        Unfortunately YT removed the ability to report spam comments recently. lol

        Surely this isn’t true…? That would be so dumb.

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          Possibly, or a scam, or worse. I don’t actually follow the links through as I don’t want to potentially want to visit something that has malicious code.

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      Step 1: Repeat popular comments for a few months to make the account look vaguely like a real person and thus more credible.
      Step 2: Switch bot to spewing propaganda.

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        But would that even work on YouTube? Maybe I have missed something, but can you really tell if an account is “popular” can you even check comment history? Wouldn’t uploading other ppls videos and get subscribers work like you said? And why that name and picture?

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    It doesn’t surprise me. I live in a “first past the post” country that forces a two-party system and penalizes voting your conscience unless it aligns with one of those parties. While there may be flaws in Ranked Choice Voting that could emerge in fringe cases, it is so obviously superior to our current system that it is hard for me to worry about the nuance of how it might not be 100% perfect 100% all of the time. Any (democratic) system is better than what we have now, even if it involves come bot casually stealing comments. 🙃

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    Worst is when you report these obvious bot comments and the social media website replies saying it found nothing wrong.

    So annoying.

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      Or in the case of YouTube, where there’s just no feedback, and you go back days later and that stupid bot comment is still there getting upvotes

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          I meant no feedback when you report something, not that there is not the ability to report something

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            I know what you meant, but until recently at the very top you had an option to report for “spam / unwanted advertisement” (or something along those words). Now you can’t really report those bots in the first place, because there’s no fitting category for it.

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              Oh strange I still see it as an option

              Wonder what the qualifier is to show it to a user

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                Interesting. Could be A/B testing, or based on the country. For me it has been gone ever since they changed the design of it a while ago.

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                  Got it, I’m in the US and a YouTube premium subscriber, so that could be the factor definitely

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    I live in a “first past the post” country that forces a two-party system and penalizes voting your conscience unless it aligns with one of those parties. While there may be flaws in Ranked Choice Voting that could emerge in fringe cases, it is so obviously superior to our current system that it is hard for me to worry too much about the nuance of how it might not be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Any (democratic) system is better than what we have now.

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      I live in a “first past the post” country that forces a two-party system and penalizes voting your conscience unless it aligns with one of those parties. While there may be flaws in Ranked Choice Voting that could emerge in fringe cases, it is so obviously superior to our current system that it is hard for me to worry too much about the nuance of how it might not be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Any (democratic) system is better than what we have now.

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        I live in a “first past the post” country that forces a two-party system and penalizes voting your conscience unless it aligns with one of those parties. While there may be flaws in Ranked Choice Voting that could emerge in fringe cases, it is so obviously superior to our current system that it is hard for me to worry too much about the nuance of how it might not be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Any (democratic) system is better than what we have now.

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      I guess?

      I’m all for voting reform, promoting easy access to voting for everyone, breaking the grip of the 2 party system, and dismantling junk like the electoral college.

      But we’re a little more than 2 months from a major election. It’s unlikely that these ideas are going to be picked up and championed as campaign promise. So it makes me wonder why they’re being parroted now. I suspect it’s to highlight that our system isn’t always great and discourage people from voting.

      They’re not saying “my vote doesn’t matter”, but that’s kind of the vibe it gives off, while suggesting an unrealistic, idealistic solution. 🤷‍♂️

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        I’ll add in, Ranked Choice is a bad choice. The “edge cases” mentioned in the post can happen in any and every election using the system.

        If Ranked Choice were the only option besides what we have, it would be a slight improvement, but there are far better options.

        STAR is simple, and does everything that RCV claims to do, but actually fails to do.

        Something to keep in mind for the push to reform voting laws after this election.

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      Was someone who lives in a Democratic country I can say that what your describing is actually called copypasta

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    It’s the same bot of the other post!

    This time the bot accidentally copied a popular comment, usually they copy a comment with no likes, then have other bots to send hundreds of likes to make it prominent over the other and have the algorithm show it more often

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      I believe they use other bot accounts to actively downvote the original comment while upvoting theirs, so that it is purposefully buried.

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    Calling it “stealing comments” is an interesting way of rewording for what is obviously bot spam.