“If you have nothing to hide” has never been a valid excuse to compromise on privacy.
Yeah, most of the time you don’t actually need it, but if you don’t make it the norm, one day you’ll wake up and find that the entire concept of encrypted communication was made illegal.
As the UK is actively trying to do. And the first sparks of which have been seen in the EU as well.
And that’s before even bringing up that even innocent normal conversation data can be used to profile individuals and mass-influence the democratic voting process with targeted campaigning.
Discord is a DM platform first, a public space second. And it’s way better at being the first, than the second.
Providing support on discord is stupid, it’s only semi-public and hides solutions to already solved problems beyond the reach of search engines and real public platforms.
I don’t see how you intend to convince anyone to ditch Discord by deliberately misunderstanding a simple point.
Many support Discords expect people to chat in a channel, not DM. Many issues will be in the public, in a channel. There is simply no privacy issue here for the vast majority of problems.
Discoverability of past issues is another problem, but that’d still be problematic if you’re on Matrix.
I’m keeping my project’s community on Discord. People who use my stuff seem satisfied.
This thread shows that merely having a Discord acts as a good filter to inhibit users who aren’t going to be helpful.
I’m not trying to convince anyone to ditch discord.
You pushed the point that “it doesn’t need to be secure because it’s all public” which is complete bullshit. Not everything on discord is public.
That its secondary ability to function as a public space has over the years become the standard way to provide a point of communication in a manner that tries to fit the round peg into the square hole, is not an excuse for their privacy policy to be as crappy as it is.
You’re free to not use Discord for any reason you desire but don’t expect anyone to cater to you. Especially if you aren’t putting in work to support a project.
What are you exchanging on Discord where this is an issue?
I’d hope your doctor isn’t joining your OSS project discord to conduct appointments or anything.
“If you have nothing to hide” has never been a valid excuse to compromise on privacy.
Yeah, most of the time you don’t actually need it, but if you don’t make it the norm, one day you’ll wake up and find that the entire concept of encrypted communication was made illegal.
As the UK is actively trying to do. And the first sparks of which have been seen in the EU as well.
And that’s before even bringing up that even innocent normal conversation data can be used to profile individuals and mass-influence the democratic voting process with targeted campaigning.
“Help, your library isn’t loading the Foobar files created in Bazfoo 2024” is not something that is sensitive data.
It is not my responsibility to manage random people’s baseless paranoia as a project maintainer.
What?
You need a forum, not a fucking discord server.
I’ll simplify:
How is there is a practical privacy issue here when the purpose of the chat is public support?
There should be no expectation of privacy in a public support chat/forum to begin with.
Let’s not be unreasonable with dogmatism here.
Again. What?
Discord is a DM platform first, a public space second. And it’s way better at being the first, than the second.
Providing support on discord is stupid, it’s only semi-public and hides solutions to already solved problems beyond the reach of search engines and real public platforms.
Discord is NOT a public space.
Well yeah. But it sure likes to pretend at being one.
I don’t see how you intend to convince anyone to ditch Discord by deliberately misunderstanding a simple point.
Many support Discords expect people to chat in a channel, not DM. Many issues will be in the public, in a channel. There is simply no privacy issue here for the vast majority of problems.
Discoverability of past issues is another problem, but that’d still be problematic if you’re on Matrix.
I’m keeping my project’s community on Discord. People who use my stuff seem satisfied.
This thread shows that merely having a Discord acts as a good filter to inhibit users who aren’t going to be helpful.
I’m not trying to convince anyone to ditch discord.
You pushed the point that “it doesn’t need to be secure because it’s all public” which is complete bullshit. Not everything on discord is public.
That its secondary ability to function as a public space has over the years become the standard way to provide a point of communication in a manner that tries to fit the round peg into the square hole, is not an excuse for their privacy policy to be as crappy as it is.
You’re free to not use Discord for any reason you desire but don’t expect anyone to cater to you. Especially if you aren’t putting in work to support a project.