I know it’s .ml where such things happen but ffs! This guy needs to fucking chill 🤦
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worldnews at .ml is a dumpster fire. First community I had to completely scrub from my instance because it was just so toxic from top to bottom.
Edit: Also, will share my last comment there before I self-banned and purged that cesspit from my instance. This is in reply to someone making a fat joke about Kim Jong Un:
Good 'ol ambiguous Rule 1 lol
What you didn’t realize is that Kim Jong II is actually the mod
I tried to give that instance the benefit of the doubt at first, but I just block all lemmy.ml communities when I see them now. There’s just too much user and ideology overlap with lemmygrad and hexbear. The worldnews sub was especially bad though. Disinformation & insults everywhere, but they’re never removed despite reports, because they’re part of their side & agenda. It’s basically lemmygrad in disguise.
Fucking mods, this is Reddit all over again.
And fuck off whoever that tells me again to set up my own instance. What I want is popular instance admins and mods to pull out the stick out of their asses, because free speech instances that get defederated at the speed of light are of no use.
And there’s no seamless multiaccount Lemmy client yet.
/rant
And there’s no seamless multiaccount Lemmy client yet.
…except all of them. At least for Android.
Here’s the one’s I’ve used with seamless multiaccount functionality: Liftoff (RIP), Jerboa, Thunder, Connect, Boost, and Voyager
Sync too, but I only used it briefly because fuck ads.
You too, huh!
All of the .ml instances are absolutely Russian psyops and you can’t change my mind
(I jest… mostly…)
Doubt. More than likely just useful idiots.
But they’re not useful at all. Even to the cause. They just make the whole agenda seem mindless and smug.
I’m convinced they’re US psyops to make communists look like idiots. I don’t agree with most of communism, but I can respect people with different views. But the tankies on Lemmy are doing such a hard double dutch rudder on China and Russia they can’t be real. Nobody is that stupid, right? And then I remember how many people are going to vote for trump. Yes, the world really is this stupid all around. Idiots are taking over. The stupid people are breeding. Nationalists that feel it’s their duty to populate the homeland.
You’re right that they aren’t real communists, that’s a mask they wear to spread Kremlin and CCP propaganda.
The idea that they’re run by the US government is ridiculous, they’re full of hateful anti-Western content.
Tankies on lemmy are absolutely that stupid. I argue with them all the time. And like OP, I get posts removed and banned often. Across several accounts.
Across several accounts
I choose to believe those tankies are doing the same, and it’s just one tankie you’re arguing with. In fact all tankies arguments on Lemmy are just at argument between you and other said tankie dude on new accounts.
Damn, that dude types FAST! Reads super fast too, although his reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired 😄
ChatGPTankie
Yeah, its the stark advocating of minority rights/protection on one hand and the intense jerking off of dictators with the other that breaks my brain with Tankies
I dont know anybody on .ml, lemmygrad or hexbear who supports russia, i really dont know where the lib world people got that strawman from.
I have had my comment removed and/or banned from the ml worldnews for “misinformation” for debunking Russian propaganda with sources.
Why do we allow these instances?
Who is “we”?
The lemmy devs run lemmy.ml. They’re kind of…out there, politically.
The lead dev, dessalines, has material like:
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html
Admitted to supporting and arming Neo-Nazis and other ultra-nationalist groups like the Azov battalion in Ukraine to overthrow it’s former pro-Russia govt, 2. Ukraine now has a pro-US, nazi-glorifying government with ultranationalism, anti-semitism, neo-nazi pogroms, and attacks on LGBT groups.
Dessalines is in the “we need the Soviet Union back and Stalin is awesome” camp. He was using a picture of Stalin as his profile picture for a while.
You know there crazy when they think the left is the far right
Like complaining about attacks on LGBT people while supporting Russia and the USSR seems just the most hypocritical thing I can think of. Does he not know Stalin mandated a 5 year minimum forced labor sentence in Siberia for being gay and Russia today is only mildly better for LGBT people.
Frankly, I think that complaining that a government headed by a Jewish guy is anti-semitic is even more bonkers.
That being said, I’m sure that dessalines didn’t originate that himself – that’s apparently big in Russia’s propaganda.
Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, rather infamously had a quote shortly after the start of the invasion, when asked about the whole “how anti-Semitic can Ukrainians be if they chose to elect a Jewish president” thing:
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/02/1095926607/lavrov-israel-zelenskyy-hitler
Lavrov was asked about Russia’s claim that it had invaded Ukraine to “denazify” the country, which has a democratically-elected Jewish president.
“So when they say ‘How can Nazification exist if we’re Jewish?’ In my opinion, Hitler also had Jewish origins, so it doesn’t mean absolutely anything,” he told the station in Russian, referring to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s religion, according to the Associated Press. “For some time we have heard from the Jewish people that the biggest antisemites were Jewish.”
Nazi and fascist have different meanings in Russia. They mean people working against the interests of Russia, it originates from the USSR. For example the gay community was labeled fascist during the soviet occupation here.
TBF the Azov Battalion is a real neo nazi us funded (through Ukraine support) group… So… Not entirely wrong?
Oh, yea, the Ukrain military has a bit of a nazi problem but the time to deal with that is not when you are being invaded. Also the nazi talking point is mostly a red herring anyways since the nazi problem in Russia is magnitudes worse and isn’t limited to their military.
So it’s technically not wrong but tankies don’t really have a problem with nazies, otherwise they wouldn’t be defending Russia, they are anti USA and will side with anything that’s even close to that side with no regards to any other belief. I’m not a fan of the US either but I’m not going to blindly support anything against it either.
Sure. You can find ideologically opposite militias fighting for Ukraine too, though. Zelensky is in charge and he’s obviously not a Nazi. He’s a Jewish guy who really wants to save Ukraine as it is and is completely willing to go full Western-progressive to do it. Singling Azov out without the context is basically a propaganda technique.
Also, Russia is acting a bit like Nazis from the very highest levels, except a shittier more openly corrupt version.
You can ask your own instance admin if they’re willing to defederate
I was also banned from [email protected] and had comments removed for “Re-enforcing neo-liberal cultural hegemony” and “Believes in objectivity in media lmao”.
My offense? Saying that a report sourced solely from an eye-witness account via Al-Jazeera regarding another massacre of civilians and aid workers in Gaza needed to be corroborated by further evidence before we regard it as hard fact. The irony is I’m very much pro-Palestinan.
According to the mods, however, that apparently means I have to throw all media literacy out of the window and blindly accept any anti-Israel claims without question.
That community is wild, but the discussion over Gaza over there is fucking crazy. Al Jazeera is one of their more credible sources, you can find articles from websites nobody every heard of, small blogs that state IDF soldiers are eating babies. And that is no exaggeration, that was the last thing I read before I left that community…
Exactly what prompted me to comment, since the blog that sourced Al-Jazeera also added certain details that didn’t seem based on anything like actual evidence. Although I admit it wasn’t anything near as extreme as the IDF canibalizing babies.
If we must call out pro-Israel propaganda that makes outrageous, unsubstantiated claims like that, we must do the same for pro-Palestinian propaganda, regardless of how we personally feel about the conflict.
I start almost every comment I make on those instances with
I know this will net me a ban
to play a bit of reverse psychology with the mods there, who don’t touch my comments when the denizens there inevitablely say
Oh yeah you think you’re so smart well we don’t ban opposing opinions unlike some places
And the mods there have their hands tied because banning me would prove their own guys wrong.
It’s worked pretty well so far.
This…… is fucking brilliant.
There’s such a polarization and paranoia that any comment that’s not 100% unwavering support is considered an attack.
This is the comment and of course toothy banned me for 3 days too.
Just like they did for “sinophobia” when I expressed misgivings about Chinese and Hungarian cops joining forces 🤦
That’s like that meme post from a few years ago where it’s like (paraphrased):
Person 1: “I can’t stand homophobes”
Person 2: How dare you insult Christians like that.
Person 1: I never said “Christians”. You jumped on that grenade all by yourself.
I got banned for “orientalism”, whatever that is
Orientalism is this stuff.
Idk I personally enjoy seeing terms I learned in grad school being thrown around in a mod log.
Paradigm shifts keep the brain nimble.
This is the comment in question, for what it’s worth
Treating Asian culture or people as a particular stereotype.
Criticizing China in any way.
Ahhh now that adds up
Just like they did for “sinophobia” when I expressed misgivings about Chinese and Hungarian cops joining forces 🤦
Just love the thing where they twist any criticism of the Chinese state into perceived hate for Chinese people, but are so apprehensive when Israel tries to do the same. It’s reprehensible.
Yeah that’s some petty bullshit.
Side note but I really appreciate the mod log feature.
I was banned for “Rule 4” which, by digging through their rules (which weren’t as easy to find as I expected it to be) I learnt that it was “Illegal content”. I literally never posted a comment, post or had ANY kind of interaction on lemmy before. THIS would be my first comment.
Something similar happened to me with a community on hexbear. Never posted but I already had a ban. The mods must have seen a comment or something on a different community on the instance. Some of the mods there are just as think skinned as on ml.
I had a post made up of almost exclusively links to news sources (to back up a previous claim) removed due to being “uncivil”
The rules are generally on the sidebar of the community or instance (depending on if you want to know the rules of the community or instance).
The irony of a communist banning someone over “McCarthyism” when what the banned user said was not even close to McCarthyism, making the mod action itself McCarthyism.
They’ve become the very thing they hate!
Everything I don’t like is McCarthyism
This engine is McCarthyism.
Oh is this the new “Gaslighting”?
I don’t like gourd veggies. Is that McCarthyism too?
You were suppose to destroy the Sith, not join them
Usually I hop in these threads ready to tell people why they deserve to be banned, but dang. There is nothing wrong, ethically or factually, in what you said.
One of their mods banned me for pointing out that Chiang Kai-Shek genocided the communists in China before the Long March. Sometimes they hurt themselves in their confusion.
It’s just a job for them, at the end of the day.
Not saying he should have been banned, but factually it was wrong, the FRG was mostly staffed by “former” Nazis. A lot of Germans saw it that way, see Baader-Meinhof.
Also it’s disingenuous to call one of the biggest arms manufacturers who supplied arms to some of the worst regimes, Israel, Sudan, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Russia “pacifist”.
Sure would be nice if your instance would allow you to rebut op with your view of the situation rather than scrub their comment and ban them. Lemmy needs more content to grow and over active jannies don’t help on that front.
This is why I’ll personally never donate to the Lemmy devs. I could never bring myself to fund a tankie.
It’s not the only one but one of the bigger reasons why I don’t use Lemmy.
I didn’t let that prevent me from using Lemmy, however, I found that I liked Mbin a lot better. Fedia.io has become my favorite forum type website.
I’m glad we don’t use Lemmy, oh wait
I literally don’t.
If you post a comment to a Lemmy instance, are you using Lemmy?
Federation
How am I reading this comment then?
Lemmy isn’t the only Threadiverse server implementation, though it’s the most-widely used. There’s kbin, of which kbin.social is the largest instance, mbin, of which fedia.io is the largest example – and the user you’re talking to is on fedia.io – and some others.
https://mbin.fediverse.observer/list
https://kbin.fediverse.observer/list
Mbin is IIRC a fork of kbin aimed at getting features in more-quickly.
https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin
Those guys are written in PHP.
There’s PieFed, which is in Python:
https://piefed.fediverse.observer/list
https://github.com/Jelloeater/pyfedi
Sublinks, which is in Java:
Oh, interesting! Thanks for enlightening me!
Because our servers & software that we’re using are federated.
Well you use it passively at least.
Although that also means you technically use Mastodon.
Maybe its communities but that’s a bit weird too because in the end it’s more the ActivityPub protocol that we all share the use of. Ultimately I’m neither on Lemmy nor Mastodon, but their content gets federated with the platform I’m using.
They seem fairly chill as far as I can tell. Its some of the long time users that are the problem
Until you realize some of these long time users are likely sockpuppet accounts of said devs.
But I find it rather funny and in the end their political believes while themselves sitting right in the “imperial core” are harmless. Armchair tankies.
It is pretty exhausting fighting their subtle tankie arguments over and over, lest someone more impressionable only see their bullshit and believe it.
I am really tired to hear “Global South” over and over again.
Rofl. I was wondering why I couldn’t see the other reply to you, and realized it might because I already blocked that user. Went to incognito, and yep, blocked that rabid user a while ago.
I recommend doing the same. I forgot “Global South” was even a term used here.
I am really tired to hear “Global South” over and over again.
We are perfectly aware that beneficiaries of colonisation (like you) would like us here in the Global South to just shut up and give you our resources and labour for absolutely nothing - so there’s no need to say the quiet part out loud, okay?
Lol, I grew up on a Russian colony. Was not fun.
That said, my thing with “Global South” is that it pretends the country with the highest GDP in the world is an “underdog”, and it tries to sell that through its supposed tight alliance with its less fortunate members. By what measure is China or Russia “the South”? Maybe it’s just them trying to sell that they are so oppressed.
And their alliance is so tight that Putin wasn’t allowed on the latest BRICS summit because ZA thought their ties with the ICC are more important than Putin.
It’s just an “actually, we are the victims” circlejerk, based on some fragile semi-alliances and pretending that China is not absolutely dominating the whole thing.
By what measure is China or Russia “the South”?
Russia certainly was after the fall of the USSR - whether it still is is open to debate. China is an active exploiter of the “Global South” - which kind of means the concept is overdue for an update.
ZA thought their ties with the ICC are more important
Nahh, they didn’t want another repeat of the al-Bashir debacle. South Africa’s ANC regime will bend over backwards for the west and especially western corporations - but the US forgot that they will only do so behind closed doors.
We are perfectly aware that beneficiaries of colonisation (like you)
Pretty sure that the guy you’re talking to is from a small country somewhere in Eastern Europe.
Well, I don’t know. I just know that the devs seemed nice and friendly in the QA
Ironically enough, there’s some actual McCarthyism going on in here.
Babe, wake up; a new .ml wrongthink euphemism dropped
Time for an alternate community
Jesus fucking Christ, are we getting the power-trip mods?
I just had one removed from news as well. I don’t even remember what I said though so I somehow doubt it was something that crazy
Found it in the modlog, not posting it here, but you suggested someone killing themselves was a good thing… Yeah, that’s going to get removed.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&userId=144966
From this post:
https://lemmy.world/comment/9274535
Rule 1 - Be civil
More like “Rule 1 - Selective Enforcement”
They give tankie talking points a lot more leeway.
Being a moderator is the only amount of power these people will ever have, and they like it, and will absolutely abuse it.
It’s not just pettiness. They’re pushing manipulation.
